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Rear reflectors replaced with led

Discussion in 'Model S: Interior & Exterior' started by rekoh, Mar 9, 2015.

  1. rekoh

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    Anyone tried these out ?

    saw these on ebay

    Red Lens Rear Bumper Reflector LED Tail Stop Brake Light For 2012+ Tesla Model S






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    Ok... Can't post a link from eBay from my iPad? Maybe someone can help with that... Pictures show it better.
     
  2. Paul Carter

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    #2 Paul Carter, Mar 9, 2015
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    2X Red Lens Rear Bumper Reflector LED Tail Stop Brake Light 2012 Tesla Model S | eBay

    Interesting, looks cool, but would it be legal?

    One source where it seems iffy: RCW 46.37.030: Visibility distance and mounted height of lamps.

     
  3. breser

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    Not sure why you're concerned with Washington law in BC but I think you're citing the wrong bit of the code.

    I don't see anything in RCW 46.37.030 that would prevent the use of something like this unless you're arguing that this impairs the effectiveness of the other lights, which I doubt.

    However, I'm not sure it meets this RCW 46.37.050 (2):

     
  4. Paul Carter

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    Thanks, thought I'd copied both parts. Was just trying to show some states have these type of regulations to consider.
     
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    #5 GreenT, Mar 10, 2015
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    Ok, weird. Msg Nr. 2 in this thread ... why, all of a sudden, are the action "buttons" (Reply, etc.) to the left?

    And under this message too? But not the message immediately following 2.

    And having added this line ^, the formatting is back to normal?
     
  6. Paul Carter

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    Maybe something odd with what I tried to paste on my iPad, will try and cleanup my post.

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    cleaned up my post. Something was weird for sure.
     
  7. mknox

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    I had actually thought that was how they were going to implement the mandatory rear fog lights in the EU. Instead, they went with the lame approach of replacing one of the two white backup lights with a red one.
     
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    Interesting. I never payed much attention to the rear reflectors on the MS even after hand washing countless times. So what is the purpose of these low rear red reflectors anyway on the Model S?
     
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    To show vehicle's presence and width. Most vehicles low beam travelling behind someone (or approaching a stopped vehicle) will cause a reflection. This aids the driver to have a better understanding that a vehicle is in front of them and roughly how wide it is, where it is on the road, and judge how much distance, if its stopped or moving, etc.
     
  10. mknox

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    It's a requirement that cars have red reflectors like this. Cars parked at the side of the road can bee seen at night, and cars with lights turned off or burned out etc. can be seen. Some cars have the reflector incorporated into the tail light assembly itself while others are separate like the Model S. It is also a requirement to have side reflectors as well (yellow at the front side and red at the rear side).
     
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    It does remove the mandatory retroreflectors unless this product has that incorporated into the design.
     
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    Call me crazy, but my Model S doesn't have yellow side reflectors at the front.
     
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    Now you're going to make me go outside and look, but I'm pretty sure the Model S incorporates it into the lower fog/cornering light/accent light assembly. The rear ones are obvious to us because one opens up to expose the charge port.
     
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    No need. That's where they are. They're incorporated into the foglight assembly.
     
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    OMG I never even noticed them until I looked just now. Thanks!
     
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    Thanks for the clarification as to the purpose of these low mounted reflectors. I can't seem to envision anything similar on other vehicles though like this and I guess where I'm going is what other makes or models have their own stand alone positioned and mounted reflectors just as the Tesla MS?
     
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    In my casual observations, about half of the vehicles I see have the rear retroreflector separate like on the Model S and the other half have it incorporated into the rear tail light assembly.

    My former Cadillac CTS was like the Model S:

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    My wife's Pontiac Vibe has it incorporated into the tail light:

    2003-pontiac-vibe-4-door-hb-tail-light_100289800_m.jpg
     
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    #18 scaesare, Mar 12, 2015
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    That add needed to show... ya know... some of them ACTUALLY INSTALLED in an S.

    (even if they do break regulations and I never buy a set... I just want to see what they look like installed, not just a shot of them loose next to a stock Model S image (and a rendered on at that....)
     
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    Is it even legal to put lights there?
     
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    I think it is. In fact Cadillac replaces them (located similarly to the Model S) with rear fog lights in the EU market, but I think they combine the retroreflector and fog light into the assembly as opposed to just the reflector in North America. The problem with these eBay items is that they don't seem to have a reflector incorporated into the design, so there might be a concern there.
     

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