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Received Red California HOV Stickers for Model 3
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All motorcycles are exempt without exception for an indefinite period of time, but EVs are only exempt if the the owners meet the qualifications, apply for, and are approved for the exemption. Also, these exemptions expire after ~ 4 years.
If all EVs were exempt without exception for an indefinite period of time, then your argument may have a tiny chance of making sense. But then exempting all EVs without exception for an indefinite period of time would hardly make any sense from a public policy perspective.
israndy
Supercharger Hunter
Yet motorcycles DON'T have emission controls, while electric cars don't emit a thing! OK, you can fit 5 motorcycles in the space my car would take up, true.
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marymcc
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4 stickers are ridiculous. CA could easily just add on stickers to license plates. Whoever thought up this idea must hate EVs.
in my previous car i only put on the two rear stickers, one fell off after a few weeks, and in five years I never had an issue
Tezzie
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Brilliant idea, @Az_Rael! What kind of magnetic sheet did you get and where did you get it?
I just got my red stickers and haven't put them on my MS yet. I don't really use the HOV lanes much, but I'd like to have the capacity to do so without permanently uglifying my car.
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I got them off of Amazon. However, they do not work on the S as the S is aluminum body panels. I used a sheet of window cling from JoAnn fabrics to stick the HOV stickers on when I had my S.
Tezzie
Member
This dude shows how to apply a piece of the Xpel PPF over the HOV sticker, cut it out, and squeegee it onto a car that had Xpel PPF applied.
I'm going to confirm this with the company that applied my Xpel PPF and will get back to you.
i'm not sure what documentation you've been reading that suggests otherwise, but the CARB website is very clear on it...
https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/carpool/carpool.htm
California’s Clean Air Decals | California Air Resources Board
hell, if you wanted to, you could wait until 2020 or 2021 and push the date out even further (although of course this means you don't have HOV access at the current moment until you actually apply for the sticker)...
Uncle Paul
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Enjoy the HOV sticker access while you can. Pressure is comming down from the Fed (who fund the HOV lanes).
They noticed that the HOV lanes are so clogged up with vehicles they often do not serve their purpose of speeding up High Occupancy Vehicles. Between all the single people sneaking in and all the vehicles exempt they often are not much faster than the regular lanes.
The Fed did not intend HOV lanes to privilege EVs and all the other exemptions that some states have enabled.
They are not threatening to hold back federal funds unless they are free flowing.
Will become a combination toll road and bus lane.
They noticed that the HOV lanes are so clogged up with vehicles they often do not serve their purpose of speeding up High Occupancy Vehicles. Between all the single people sneaking in and all the vehicles exempt they often are not much faster than the regular lanes.
The Fed did not intend HOV lanes to privilege EVs and all the other exemptions that some states have enabled.
They are not threatening to hold back federal funds unless they are free flowing.
Will become a combination toll road and bus lane.
israndy
Supercharger Hunter
Perhaps they should take the cheaters out of the lane. It seems like for every 10 cars that pass, 6 of them have no one in the car but the driver and no stickers on the outside. I do see an electric car in that 10, but they are not the majority. I NEVER see police pulling over cheating drivers. At almost $500 a ticket you would think it would be a popular one to give out.
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Fusion
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Yep, enforce the cheaters and you will have much faster flowing lanes. I've seen several instances where the cheater passes the toll plaza area passing a parked officer and still get away with it. I don't think they will get rid of HOV lanes, they may change it and limit it to only 2-3 passengers like before and not offer them to EV/hybrids.
Tezzie
Member
It seems ridiculous to have ugly HOV stickers all over the car. In California, permanent disability stickers are applied to license plates and renewed annually, as part of vehicle registration--why can't that be done for ZEVs?
As far as HOV lane privileges, it seems reasonable that these are being phased out for gas/electric hybrids. It should eventually be reserved for high occupancy and zero emissions vehicles.
As far as HOV lane privileges, it seems reasonable that these are being phased out for gas/electric hybrids. It should eventually be reserved for high occupancy and zero emissions vehicles.
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