Question about the energy capacity. You may have already stated this in different terms, but I didn’t catch it. Do the packs contain the same amount of cells as an OEM pack, just that some of them are older and have experienced some degradation?So, we think this is BIG.
Today we’re launching our groundbreaking RC+ line of remanufactured battery packs for the Model S and Model X.
Leading the RC+ lineup is our new RC 210+ battery pack. Dollar for dollar, the 210+ is our most popular battery pack to date – a commute-ready daily-driver for under $6,500. What's more, the entire pack is covered for up to 4 years or 50,000 miles. That’s pretty much unheard of. And it sure beats cutting a check for $18,000 or more down at the local SC…
Not to mention, the 210+ delivers plenty of punch: 310 kW / 415 hp power output, with the same off-the-line performance as your existing battery pack and 0-60 times under 6 seconds. Now... if you’re looking for even more performance, we also offer the 210+ Sport – identical to the 210+ but with some added punch at the top end.
Here’s a quick rundown of the entire RC+ line, as well as a the link to our website - Recell
RC 210+
A commute-ready daily-driver - dollar for dollar, this is our most popular option
- Rated Range: 210+ Miles
- Power: 310 KW / 415 HP
- Energy Capacity: 64.6 kWh - 68.4 kWh
- Compatibility: Model S 85 / P85
- Cost: $6,400 - installation included
RC 210+ Sport
A commute-ready daily-driver - identical to the RC 210+ with some added punch
- Rated Range: 210+ Miles
- Power: 360 KW / 480 HP
- Energy Capacity: 64.6 kWh - 68.4 kWh
- Compatibility: Model S 85 / P85
- Cost: $8,400 - installation included
RC 240+
A longer-range option for Model S owners who spend more time on the road
- Rated Range: 240+ Miles
- Power: 410 KW / 550HP
- Energy Capacity: 74.6 kWh
- Compatibility: Model S 85 / P85
- Cost: $9,900 - installation included
RC 250+
The ultimate in range for Model S owners in search of the open road
- Rated Range: 250+ Miles
- Power: 410 KW / 550HP
- Energy Capacity: 77.4 kWh
- Compatibility: Model S 85 / P85
- Cost: $10,900 - installation included
More on the RC+ Line..
The RC+ line is the ideal solution for every kind of driver - from the RC 210+, our most popular battery pack, to the longer-range RC 240+ and RC 250+ versions.
Our remanufactured battery packs use only genuine Tesla parts and are based on the factory original 5.2 kWh / Type 85 and 5.6 kWh / Type 90 battery modules developed by Tesla. Installation, mounting, firmware and software updates, supercharging support, etc. are identical to the factory battery pack - the only difference between the RC+ series and a factory original is the configuration and capacity.
Certified and Tested
In addition to the over 50,000 miles of road testing that the went into the RC+ series during development, each of our remanufactured battery packs goes through a rigorous inspection, certification and testing process, equivalent to over 2,000 miles of real-world load. Failure-prone components such as the main fuse and high voltage contactors are replaced with Ludicrous-class components, and control boards and voltage sensors that don’t meet manufacturer spec are replaced as needed.
What's Covered?
The entire pack is covered for up to 4 years or 50,000 miles. In the event of a battery pack failure, a full battery pack or hardware replacement will be provided at the nearest Recell-certified Service Center.
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Question about the energy capacity. You may have already stated this in different terms, but I didn’t catch it. Do the packs contain the same amount of cells as an OEM pack, just that some of them are older and have experienced some degradation?
Great question. While they are not a perfect 1-to-1 in terms of capacity and configuration, the RC 210+ and RC 210+ Sport look and behave identically to Tesla's 70/75 kWh packs. Similarly, the RC 240+ and RC 250+ look and behave identically to Tesla's 85/90 kWh packs. This is how we ensure interoperability between the pack and the rest of the car.
We should add, Telsa's battery modules are remarkably stable in terms of degradation - even after 150K miles or more. The vast majority of the bricks, north of 95% or more, even in a failed battery pack, degrade gracefully along a long steady glide slope. But, much like a string of Christmas lights, it's the one or two pathological bricks that end up taking the rest of the pack down...
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Sanderpman12
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davewill
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Your drive unit will draw what it will draw. The battery doesn't FORCE more power into it.
Early 60s we’re true 60kWh. Later Tesla software locked 75s to 60.
in the case of the 210+ the capacities listed above include a 2.8 kWh buffer and the others include the 4 kWh buffer.
as noted above we are not able to upgrade from a 60 kWh pack to a larger pack - the core credit, basically the salvage value on the 60s, just isn’t there currently.
well, a couple of things to note here:
90 kWh packs are still under warranty and need to be sourced individually through auction, etc. - read: $$$
as a result, given the relatively low return on investment for owners (we see very limited actual demand for that upgrade combination) that’s not something we currently offer.
if customers want to go that route on a one-off basis, it’s certainly something we can provide for them, but the numbers rarely pencil out.
When all is said and done, it's usually far more cost effective to continue using your existing battery pack until it reaches the end of it's useful life and then replace it with either a remanufactured battery pack from Recell or another 3rd party, or a new battery pack in the size you want direct from Tesla.
90 kWh packs are still under warranty and need to be sourced individually through auction, etc. - read: $$$
as a result, given the relatively low return on investment for owners (we see very limited actual demand for that upgrade combination) that’s not something we currently offer.
if customers want to go that route on a one-off basis, it’s certainly something we can provide for them, but the numbers rarely pencil out.
When all is said and done, it's usually far more cost effective to continue using your existing battery pack until it reaches the end of it's useful life and then replace it with either a remanufactured battery pack from Recell or another 3rd party, or a new battery pack in the size you want direct from Tesla.
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Some have inquired about the performance differences between the 210+, the 210+ Sport, and the 240+ / 250+. Below are two graphs illustrating the torque curve and acceleration for each pack, the first shows Model S 85 performance, and the second, the performance in a Model S P85.
The biggest takeaway is that off-the-line performance are identical across all 4 packs. The only difference is at the top-end above 60 mph, where the 240+ and the 250+ deliver the higher top-end horsepower of an OEM pack - no surprises there.
A quick primer on horsepower: horsepower is a function of torque delivery at ever increasing speed - that is, maintaining a given amount of torque/acceleration at higher and higher speed requires ever increasing horsepower. It's also why a Lambo, given enough track, will eventually catch up to your Model S
Obviously, performance and acceleration are subjective, and even more difficult at times to distill into dollar terms for customers. But our own experience during testing has been that each of these packs deliver plenty of punch, certainly more than the rear end and the traction control system on the older Tesla's can manage - with all that torque, the backend on a RWD Model S can get pretty sloppy at times.
But... if unbridled performance are in your budget (as well as a rebuild of your suspension to replace worn out bushings and shocks to handle all that renewed power), the 240+ / 250+ are always option.
The biggest takeaway is that off-the-line performance are identical across all 4 packs. The only difference is at the top-end above 60 mph, where the 240+ and the 250+ deliver the higher top-end horsepower of an OEM pack - no surprises there.
A quick primer on horsepower: horsepower is a function of torque delivery at ever increasing speed - that is, maintaining a given amount of torque/acceleration at higher and higher speed requires ever increasing horsepower. It's also why a Lambo, given enough track, will eventually catch up to your Model S
Obviously, performance and acceleration are subjective, and even more difficult at times to distill into dollar terms for customers. But our own experience during testing has been that each of these packs deliver plenty of punch, certainly more than the rear end and the traction control system on the older Tesla's can manage - with all that torque, the backend on a RWD Model S can get pretty sloppy at times.
But... if unbridled performance are in your budget (as well as a rebuild of your suspension to replace worn out bushings and shocks to handle all that renewed power), the 240+ / 250+ are always option.
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Our backlog is typically only 1-2 weeks out and we can swap in a replacement pack same day/next day, so quick turnaround. We can arrange shipment as early as next week if needed.
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iamsuperchris
Rolling Stonks
If this is the real deal, you guys have accomplished something amazing here.
You have mail. Curious if by the 250+, 77KWh option, you are taking 90 or 100KWh packs and reducing (bad) cell counts? With a 4KWh buffer, an '85' Tesla is basically new, if WK057's observance of 81 energy capacity was accurate (77 +4). There can't be too many 81KWh, "85" packs available at this point. Thanks.
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