Referral program in VA - Owners Beware.

[GoGreen1]

I have two referrals that ended up in two MS sales last November (Nov-2017). When I inquired about the reward for these referrals today, below is the response I received from Tesla sales. I think Tesla is purposely misleading owners since the referral program does not mention any omissions in any specific states on its website.

https://www.tesla.com/support/referral-program

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Wissam Saeed wrote:
"
Apologies on the late reply- I had to do a bit of digging for you.

Due to the way salesperson’s laws are set up in Virginia, Tesla is unable to reward Virginia residents with prizes for referrals. Fortunately, this does not affect the list of benefits that the owners you have referred will be able to take advantage of. Regardless, we greatly appreciate all you do to help with the transition to sustainable energy!

Kind regards,
Wissam
"

 

[carbonx]

It's in there, but this isn't Tesla's fault that your state prohibits this type of program which is unfortunate.

"Must be at least 18 years old to be eligible for awards. Awards are non-transferable and not redeemable for cash. The customer is responsible for all taxes and local requirements and fees. Customers are responsible for their own travel and accommodations unless otherwise specified. Program and awards are conditional on and subject to local laws and regulations. Unfortunately, Ohio and Virginia residents are not eligible for awards."

 

[GoGreen1]

ok I was searching for VA. Thx

 

[dcmetro]

Does this mean, you cannot get the Wall charger also or just not the $$?

 

[RedOctober]

I have two referrals that ended up in two MS sales last November (Nov-2017). When I inquired about the reward for these referrals today, below is the response I received from Tesla sales. I think Tesla is purposely misleading owners since the referral program does not mention any omissions in any specific states on its website.

https://www.tesla.com/support/referral-program

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Wissam Saeed wrote:
"
Apologies on the late reply- I had to do a bit of digging for you.

Due to the way salesperson’s laws are set up in Virginia, Tesla is unable to reward Virginia residents with prizes for referrals. Fortunately, this does not affect the list of benefits that the owners you have referred will be able to take advantage of. Regardless, we greatly appreciate all you do to help with the transition to sustainable energy!

Kind regards,
Wissam
"

You should be able to use someone elses referral and have that person give you the rewards. If I didn’t live so far away I would say use mine. Sad that you can’t collect.

 

[carbonx]

Does this mean, you cannot get the Wall charger also or just not the $$?

Everything, not just the $$$

 

[Reddy Kilowatt]

Does this mean, you cannot get the Wall charger also or just not the $$?

I found this out real quick, my DS said va prohibits the rewards system and that we would receive the rewards towards our annual service plans
I gave the reward to a friend in Maryland and he will receive it but I just get service points

 

[dcmetro]

I found this out real quick, my DS said va prohibits the rewards system and that we would receive the rewards towards our annual service plans
I gave the reward to a friend in Maryland and he will receive it but I just get service points

What is service points? So if folks in VA refer someone, we do not get to use that referral for kids car or wall charger?

 

[Reddy Kilowatt]

Not from what I was told.

Sorry spell check on service points. You will receive credit towards annual service visits. kinda like a coupon?? VA and Ohio law have some funky law against the referral process.

 

[Xenoilphobe]

Explains a lot about why NADA has a HQ here in Virginia.

 

[lynnpt2001]

Shouldn't this be challenged? I'm not a lawyer but reading this, seems like a car owner does not qualify as part of the requirement....

"
Who is considered to be a “Salesperson”?

Virginia Code Section 46.2-1500 defines “Motor vehicle salesperson" or "salesperson" as (i) any person who is hired as an employee by a motor vehicle dealer to sell or exchange motor vehicles and who receives or expects to receive a commission, fee, or any other consideration from the dealer; (ii) any person who supervises salespersons employed by a motor vehicle dealer, whether compensated by salary or by commission; (iii) any person, compensated by salary or commission by a motor vehicle dealer, who negotiates with or induces a customer to enter into a security agreement on behalf of a dealer; or (iv) any person who is licensed as a motor vehicle dealer and who sells or exchanges motor vehicles. For the purposes of this section, any person who is an independent contractor as defined by the United States internal revenue code shall be deemed not to be a motor vehicle salesperson.

This includes, but is not limited to:

• Any person who is employed by a licensed Virginia dealership to sell or exchange motor vehicles and is NOT an Independent Contractor
• Any person who negotiates with or induces a customer into a security agreement on behalf of a dealer
• Any person who supervises a salesperson
• Any person who is licensed as a motor vehicle dealer (owner of record) and is actively involved in selling motor vehicles

Finance & Insurance (F&I) Employees and Sales Managers Must Be Licensed
Legislation adopted by the 2006 General Assembly broadened the definition of a motor vehicle salesperson to include those functions performed by sales managers and dealer employees who are in the Finance and Insurance (“F&I”) side of the automobile sales industry. Anyone who performs the functions described in the definition above must have a salesperson’s license. Regardless of the working title an individual has, if they fit the definition, they must have a salesperson’s license.

 

[scaesare]

My similar thread has a happy ending....

 

[X-Chris]

Not clear on this: I live in VA and bought MY via referral link. I am not the referrer - I am the referred customer. Will I receive the 1000 SC miles? I do not see them anywhere as of yet, but it's been only a day since I took delivery.

 

[Tholland]

Not clear on this: I live in VA and bought MY via referral link. I am not the referrer - I am the referred customer. Will I receive the 1000 SC miles? I do not see them anywhere as of yet, but it's been only a day since I took delivery.

No you will not receive them. Unfortunately