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Vendor Refresh Model S LR/Plaid : Winter Tire Option

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I did a bit of a risky thing and drove from Portland to Seattle on the 21'' OEM MPS4S tires on Xmas afternoon. Most of the drive was 34-37F but had to drive through two areas of snow/snowing.

Honestly not terrible. Winter tires would have calmed my soul but the car didn't run away from me. I'll still be getting the 19'' OEM winter wheel and tire set but I think people saying they are hockey pucks in cold weather are just citing anecdotes from older tires.

Your temps were above freezing so no risk of hockey pucks there. I clearly had newer Michelin MXM all-seasons turn into hockey pucks on me. It was no fun, and made me get winter tires every season since then. THere is a big big difference between winter tires and all-seasons in the 5% of time where it really matters -- and likely a smaller marginal, but still worthwhile, difference in other cases where temps are below freezing -- whether wet, snowy or dry.
 
Anyone running 265/40R21 and 295/35R21 on a plaid? Roughly a 1" larger rolling diameter, but otherwise maintains the existing stagger exactly and the diameter difference between front and back. Worried a bit about rubbing, but wouldn't mind more sidewall and a there are quite few more options in these sizes.
I was actually looking at a set of vredestein wintrac pro in that size, and yes i dont see why it wouldnt work. There should be enough clearance to accomodate an extra 1/2 inch of tire under the fender. This way I can have the 21s all year round. Sorry, I just hate 19s, the proportions just are not right.

I know the common wisdom is that 21 snow tires are a poor option, but thats not true as long as its the right tire. Vredestein is the only company I know that makes truly dedicated snow tires in just about any size.

I have 22inch wintrac pros on my Range Rover SVR and they have been great.

I am going to run the wintrac 21s on my plaid and be the guinea pig.

I live in northeast ohio near lake erie. We get lake effect snow like crazy and have some serious winters. So if they work here, they should be good anywhere.
 
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I just mounted Michelin pilot sport all Season 265/35-R21 on the front and 295/35 R21 on the rear of my new 2022 Model S LR with 21
Arachnids. The fronts are standard factory size and the rear is a 295/35 vs (295/30)on stock. This is the closest size Michelin makes to stock rear in an all season. The rear is 1 inch taller than stock but clears without a problem. This allows me to run one tire year around without having to switch out between the snow tires and performance summer tires each year.
How are these tires holding up with some of the snow we've had recently?

I got a 20201 Model S LR with 21" arachnids 3 weeks ago and looking to get either snow tires or all season tires in the Chicago area. Who did you have install them?
 
How are these tires holding up with some of the snow we've had recently?

I got a 20201 Model S LR with 21" arachnids 3 weeks ago and looking to get either snow tires or all season tires in the Chicago area. Who did you have install them?
I’m following this as well; I wanted to go with that setup, but the local (Naperville) Tesla Service center said that the larger diameter in the rear would likely rub, and they wouldn’t want to be responsible for the car hitting a highway bump and the rear tire ripping off the rear fascia. So, I’ve now got the stock wheels and tires stored in my garage for summer, and a square setup of those Michelin Pilot Sport All Seasons on 20” Signature wheels on the car itself. On the highway (355 & 88) I haven’t heard a perceptible noise difference, and the grip is outstanding, although I have yet to drive the car in the snow. The Tesla mupflaps were just delivered today so I’m planning to put those on shortly as well. Here’s my post with photos of the winter wheel setup: Vendor - Official Signature Wheel Gallery | Model S Plaid & Performance.
 
In Chicago area with Arachnids on my Plaid as well. Looking to possibly get Michelin X-Ice Snow 265/40 R20 winter tires on a set of 20x9 rims for the winters. The rears end up around 10mm more in diameter so just concerned about rubbing on bumps. Think the OP mentioned these sizes would work but want to know if anyone has tried this size. Thanks.
 
How are these tires holding up with some of the snow we've had recently?

I got a 20201 Model S LR with 21" arachnids 3 weeks ago and looking to get either snow tires or all season tires in the Chicago area. Who did you have install them?

I just installed this set yesterday (Michelin PS A/S) on my 22 MSLR here in Denver and just drove it in some snow and I am quite content with the performance. It was cold and mostly dry this morning (8 degrees F) and honestly on the dry pavement they were quieter than the OEM PS4S’s.

For the record the new tires are 265/35zr21 (front) and 295/35zr21 (rear). Here’s a picture. The extra 1” diameter in the back is not too noticeable really.
 

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I just installed this set yesterday (Michelin PS A/S) on my 22 MSLR here in Denver and just drove it in some snow and I am quite content with the performance. It was cold and mostly dry this morning (8 degrees F) and honestly on the dry pavement they were quieter than the OEM PS4S’s.

For the record the new tires are 265/35zr21 (front) and 295/35zr21 (rear). Here’s a picture. The extra 1” diameter in the back is not too noticeable really.
Has this tire size affected anything with Tesla. Since it’s not the spec?
 
As we are getting into winter time and more Refresh Model S being delivered to the owner, you will realize the winter tire selection could very limited + lots of headache when searching for them. Which can be true because there's no exact matching tire to match the OEM setup. Most of the time, Online tire websites won't show you the mismatch tire selection when you put in front and rear size.

It took me a lovely afternoon to gather all the possible options for the winter in variable sizes and prices. I hope this info will help the owner to decide which fits the best for their need.

No need to shop around, the link take you to exact retailer for ordering.


Feel free to leave your feedback on the specific tire if you had them on your car before (Preferred been use on high hoursepower applicaiton)

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**Option does not include SUV tire or Run Flat

**Price on the website subject to change without notice

** I'm not affiliate with any of the retailer below.

By Jamie @ Signature Wheel
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OEM FITMENT


19" Tesla Model S Cardenio Wheel

Wheel size: F:19x9.5 R:19x10.5
Tire size: F:255/45/19 R:285/40/19
*Note: No exact match in this size.


Front Tire Option OEM 255/45/19



  1. WINTER SOTTOZERO 3 - 255/45/19 - 104V ($252)
  2. CONTIWINTERCONTACT TS830 P - 255/45/19 - 100V ($258)
  3. Hakkapeliitta R3 - 255/45/19 - 104T ($291)
  4. Pilot Alpin PA4 - 255/45/19 - 100V ($334) (Best Performance)
  5. X-ICE SNOW - 255/45/19 - 104H ($281) BackOrder


Rear Tire Option OEM 285/40/19

  1. WINTER SOTTOZERO - 285/40/19 - 103V $(331)
  2. PILOT ALPIN PA4 N-SPEC - 285/40/19 - 103V ($383) (Best Performance)
  3. P Zero Winter - 285/40/19 - 108V ($437)




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21" Tesla Model S Arachnid Wheel

Wheel size: F:21x9.5 & R:21x10.5
Tire Size: F:265/35/21 R:295/30/21
*Note: No exact match in this size.



Front Tire Option OEM 265/35/21

  1. WINTER SOTTOZERO 3 - 265/35/21 - 101w ($383)



Rear Tire Option OEM 295/30/21

  1. Pilot Alpin 5 - 295/30/21 - 102v ($547) (Best Performance)





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20” Aftermarket Wheel Option Size



Front or Rear:



-255/40/20- 20x8.5 / 20x9 / 20x9.5



  1. WINTER SOTTOZERO 3 - 255/40/20 - 101V ($383)
  2. X-Ice Snow - 255/40/20 - 110H ($414)
  3. Pilot Alpin PA4 - 255/40/20 -101V ($423) (Best Performance)


-265/40/20- 20x9 / 20x9.5 / 20x10



  1. WINTER SOTTOZERO SERIE II - 265/40/20 - 104V ($311)
  2. SP WINTER SPORT 3D - 265/40/20 -104V ($263)
  3. PILOT ALPIN 5 - 265/40/20 - 104W ($417) (Best Performance)


-285/35/20- 20x9.5 / 20x10 / 20x10.5 (Tesla Upcoming Track Pack Size)



  1. WINTER SOTTOZERO 3 - 285/35/20 - 104V ($322)
  2. PILOT ALPIN PA4 N-SPEC - 285/35/20 - 104V ($467) (Best Performance)


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Rear Only:



-295/35/20- 20x10 / 20x10.5/ 20x11

  1. WINTERCONTACT TS 860 S - 295/35R20 - 105V ($354)
  2. BLIZZAK LM-32 - 295/35/20 - 105W ($404)


-305/30/20- 20x10.5 / 20x11 / 20x11.5 (Short in Diameter)(Tesla Upcoming Track Pack Size)

  1. PILOT ALPIN PA4 - 305/30/20 - 103W ($545) (Best Performance)
  2. WINTER SOTTOZERO 3 - 305/30/20 - 103W ($594)


-305/35/20- 20x10.5 / 20x11 / 20x11.5

  1. WINTER SOTTOZERO - 305/35/20 - 104V ($716)


-315/35/20 - 20x10.5 / 20x11 / 20x11.5

  1. BLUEARTH WINTER V905 - 315/35/20 - 110V ($338)
  2. PILOT ALPIN PA4 N-SPEC - 315/35/20 - 110V ($434) (Best Performance)
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Aftermarket Alternative: (19")

Alternative front or rear tire 275/40/19

  1. WINTER SOTTOZERO SERIE II - 275/40/19 - 105V ($371)
  2. WINTER SOTTOZERO 3 - 275/40/19 - 101W ($398)


Aftermarket Alternative: (21")

Alternative front or rear tire 275/35/21

  1. SP WINTER SPORT 3D - 275/35/21 - 103W ($398)
  2. WINTER SOTTOZERO 3 - 275/35/21 - 103V ($450)

Vredestein makes the wintrac pro in bunch of fun sizes. I run the 245/35 r21 as a square set up on my model S performance. I also have a set of 22inch I run on my RR sport SVR. I just see people always struggling with the idea of there being no 21 inch or larger option that have decent aspect ratio and are good snow tires. I just got my plaid and will run them on that as well since there are compatible sizes for that as well.
 
So what I plan on doing is buying an extra set of the stock 21" wheels and having them re-finished in another shade of silver or maybe gloss black this time. There are many companies around that will do that. I had a 2018 Model S before and I bought a set of the original Arachnid wheels and sent them to be finished in a liquid gunmetal silver. They looked amazing. The problem now is nobody is selling the new Arachnids for cheap yet. I figure by next winter there will be plenty of sets out there for less than $3,500.

I have a friend who works for Tire Rack and he gave me the perfect combo to use the exact same size tires for the Plaid. Basically, its totally fine to run two different brands of tires on the car as long as you match or come close to the amount of silica used in the tire. Winter tires have a higher level of silica to keep them flexible in cold weather. Also trying to match the tread pattern is optimal. He found 2 that are almost identical in silica content and tread pattern. Here is what I am going with.
Front:
265/35/21 Pirelli Winter Sottozero Sierie II
Rear:
295/30/21 Continental WinterContact TS860S

The Continentals will be back in stock soon. I luckily got some while they had them. Other stores have them in stock though.


Here are some pictures of my Old style Arachnid Wheels I had re-finished.

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How did the combination of the Pirellis up front and continentals in the rear go? I am thinking of going that route as well this winter.