That's a weird way to list a car price (you're probably talking about 30% under). I believe the onroad price of the Plaid started at $215k and made it's way up to about $260k before they removed it from the site. Likewise the LR started at about $150k and made its way upto about $185k before they removed it.
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Refresh Model X & S Waiting Room - AUSTRALIA (Orders cancelled by Tesla May2023)
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I'm not confused at all. You're listing some irrelevant price that no one actually pays. The only price that matters is the onroad price, which is generally within about $1-3k depending on the state.
Yes. Drive away price $231k. The only figure that matters. Everything else is just the workings.
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You said the price excludes LCT in the first post, then said the price includes LCT here.
This is the source of the confusion, on road price always includes LCT. The price you quoted of $186,990 doesn't include paint or wheels either.
Normally people talk about the drive-away price, especially with expensive cars where tax plays such a big part of the price.
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EcoCloudIT
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It’s safe to assume if the new S/X was delivered today we’ll be paying a kings ransom for it…
No you are incorrect. Re-read my 1st post on page 7. It said 'I priced a Plaid in Midnight Silver with 21's last year for $231,151 drive away in the ACT. You can see the break down above and that price obviously includes LCT. Also the price of $186,990 does include paint and wheels (19 inch wheels and white paint) if that's your preference. You pay more if you want 21's ($5,000) and ($2,200) for Midnight Silver paint. My post is very clear, I'm puzzled why you guys are finding it difficult to interpret.
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360C
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My fully optioned 2017 X P100D was circa $310k OTR. I strongly suspect that the Plaid if it ever gets here will be north of $300k OTR, perhaps significantly north given the strong US dollar and the rise in OTR costs here in the Socialist State of Victoria.
I'm sick of waiting for the Plaid replacement to arrive so I am shopping alternatives ATM. Once you get over $300k there are some pretty compelling alternatives. I'm interested in the EQS but initially you can only get the top spec AMG which will be closer to $400k OTR and will depreciate to
$100k- ish after 5 years. Service and parts costs out of warranty will also be horrendous. That probably makes it a non-starter for me even though it is likely to be the best alternative.
I'm looking at a Porsche Taycan Cross-Turismo ATM and will test drive it when I get the chance over the next couple of weeks. You can get a decent spec'd top model in the mid $300's OTR and it will likely have better retained value. The top model is also available in about 6-8 months which is also a consideration given how long delivery times have become - years in some cases.
I suspect that the Tesla S/X will still be best in the tech department and I would certainly miss that. After 5 years and 110,000 km's in my X I'm just sick of waiting for the Plaid which may never arrive here and will cost a bomb if it ever does.
A Roadster would be good; but I've come to the conclusion that car is a myth and will never eventuate.
EcoCloudIT
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Couldn't agree more with, I am also sick of the waiting and have considered the EQE 53...drove the Taycan and really didn't like it...
My budget does't stretch to a EQS and overall it's a tad too large for me but the main reason is my budget doesn't stretch
Like you I am also living the socialist dream, I was sure I'd seen your plates on an S though...
raynewman
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I doubt anyone has any firm idea, including Tesla. If it's that long, might as well buy a Rivian or Lucid because they'll definitely be available by then. But realistically, Tesla still can't meet demand on the S/X in North America, they haven't shipped one car to left hand drive markets like China or Europe, so RHD markets are probably a long time away.
360C
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Couldn't agree more with, I am also sick of the waiting and have considered the EQE 53...drove the Taycan and really didn't like it...
My budget does't stretch to a EQS and overall it's a tad too large for me but the main reason is my budget doesn't stretch
Like you I am also living the socialist dream, I was sure I'd seen your plates on an S though...
You did indeed, my Model S wears the "360" plates (wife's car) and my X wears "275". I've been interested in Heritage plates since I was a kid and started collecting them several decades ago when they were relatively "cheap". I'm as surprised as anybody else about the values of them today.
I really want to like the Taycan but I suspect I will come to the same conclusion that you did. Porsche have a totally different philosophy in focusing on the dynamics of the driving experience over practical considerations like regeneration, range and technology. Personally after driving EV's for 7 years I am of the opinion that you can't make an EV "exciting and emotional" to drive in the conventional ICE sense. It's a question of choosing the right tool for the job at hand and in my experience there is no better tool for daily commuting than an EV. In that role I want something that uses an EV's positive attributes to provide a silent, luxurious, high tech environment to ease the monotonous grind of the daily commute as much as possible. If I want to drive something exciting on a Sunday morning I'll take one of my ICE cars.
360C
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I saw somewhere that they had resumed deliveries to LHD European markets but I haven't checked into it myself.
Personally I'd be very reticent to buy an EV from a small manufacturer. As Tesla found out it's one thing to come out with a model but it is exponentially harder to get it into mass production. Tesla was on the razors edge of bankruptcy for most of its existence and I suspect a lot of these other EV manufacturers won't make it through to mass production.
I understand your concerns about Rivian and Lucid, but Rivian has Bezos/Amazon money behind them, and a contract to deliver hundreds of thousands of Amazon delivery vans (and it'll probably be ongoing), and Lucid has Saudi money as well as a contract for over 100k Airs to be delivered the Saudi government. They can really afford to bleed money for a long time. One thing that does worry me is the non Tesla charging networks, they're just unreliable.
I’m in the same boat. Given up on a tesla option to replace my 7 year old model with a new X so now waiting on what the soon to be announced EQE SUV will look like or the Polestar 3 specs, price and delivery time. While they may not match Tesla in tech and raw acceleration, at least those options will have a proper steering wheel.
