Refreshed “2021” Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

[jeffcole]

Jeff....You are definitely getting biased opinions asking your question in a forum full of guys who ordered the performance cars! I had the same dilemma as you. I thought about it CONSTANTLY until I switched my car to a performance model. Have not given it a thought since then! That tells me that in my situation, that was the right choice FOR ME.

You'll love it either way. If you have the money, get the "P". I'll leave you with this quote from a local pool installer who shared this with me when I was deciding what size in-ground pool to get installed. He said "well.....I've never had a client come back and say "I wish I had put in a smaller pool", but I frequently get people saying that they wish they had put in a larger one". I liken that to the LR AWD vs. P decision. I doubt many "P" owners have ever said "you know, I wish I had gone with the LR AWD"!

My $.02

Todd

oh I'm not asking a question. I decided on the P. Just letting other people know the real math if they stumble upon this thread and have the same dilemma. It's an easier decision to make when in the long run, its really not that much more expensive.

 

[natman316]

Anyone have any idea what to do if you find issues with the car when accepting delivery through express delivery? Is it as simple as making note and taking to local SC? or just straight up refusing?

Can do both. Report on App for minor issues. Major issues I would refuse, but then you’ll have to wait a while for another car. I got a mobile ranger to come fix my door strikers very quickly.

BTW don’t forget to ask to go inside the car before accepting delivery. If the delivery center won’t do it, you can always call your SA. Mine opened the car for me remotely

 

[Hilbe]

I didn't think you could run smaller wheels on the P's due to brake size?

Tsportline sells 18s, 19s, 20s that all fit the Ps. You can even get wheels, tires, and TPMS sensors for 2021 Ps from them as well. I'm either doing 18s or 19s from them in matte black. Can't decide if I want the arachnids or the turbines they sell. Both look great.

 

[SummerlinChiro]

I didn't think you could run smaller wheels on the P's due to brake size?

Factory wheels tend to be cheap, which means heavy, thick metal. If you get a good aftermarket wheel, it is light, with thinner metal, and it fits over the brakes (not breaks!)

Enkei confirmed to me that most of their 18" race wheels fit over the Model 3 Performance brakes.

 

[mpegripper]

still 3/1-31 for me, order in early november, sf bay area

 

[Venom]

Really tempted to switch to the LR Model 3 after seeing this…

Hopefully Tesla addresses the issue soon since the M3P is insanely slow with lower SoC during colder temps.

14s 0 - 60!?

 

[Avn1284]

Mine's still Feb 15 - March 15; I ordered a M3P on Dec 14 (East Coast)

You and I have the exact same order date and delivery estimate, except I’m in the Central Valley of Cali.

Good luck to the both of us!

 

[TBrownTX]

Really tempted to switch to the LR Model 3 after seeing this…

Hopefully Tesla addresses the issue soon since the M3P is insanely slow with lower SoC during colder temps.

14s 0 - 60!?

It's a battery powered car. Not all that different from an RC car, electric leaf blower, etc. They all have degrading performance as battery voltage diminishes. The only way to "prevent" this would be to artificially cap the peak performance to "hide" the degradation.

Same thing will happen to a LR, it's just not going to be as dramatic a loss, as the peak performance is lower. This is one of the areas an ICE car still has advantages, no power difference at a full tank vs. an eighth of a tank.

The car's software is designed to protect the battery, so naturally performance will degrade with charge level, temperatures, etc. Even with degraded performance, the instant torque and lack of shifting make up for some of the loss.

To me, the extra half a second at peak performance is a fun trick for your friends, without much real world application unless you drag race. I'm going performance for the extra frills including the lowered stance, uberturbine wheels, upgraded brakes, etc.

Tim

 

[Venom]

Yes but a 14s 0-60 is ridiculous. This is specific to the 2021 model. Hopefully fixable with a software update. It’s due to having a heat pump and the car not warming up the battery enough during cold temps. The 2020 model did not have this issue.

 

[jeffcole]

Yes but a 14s 0-60 is ridiculous. This is specific to the 2021 model. Hopefully fixable with a software update. It’s due to having a heat pump and the car not warming up the battery enough during cold temps. The 2020 model did not have this issue.

I'm not worried about it, I think they will fix it via software update. First year with a heat pump, they will adjust.

 

[MOD220]

It's my understanding that the acceleration is purely software. The range is affected by the wheels, the size, their weight, and the aerodynamics of them. Ignoring lead foot, no the boost will not affect range. But lead foot is real, and it will affect range.

If that's true, then why would the LR+boost w/ smaller wheels, be slower than the Performance w/ 20" wheels?

 

[jeffcole]

If that's true, then why would the LR+boost w/ smaller wheels, be slower than the Performance w/ 20" wheels?

It’s limited by software. They don’t want the boost to be as fast as the performance.

 

[MOD220]

It’s limited by software. They don’t want the boost to be as fast as the performance.

okay, makes sense. I'm torn white vs gray, I think the white looks much better but with all the accents now black, it kind of kills the "white look and if the car is going to hard dark accents, the charcoal gray may look better. Also torn on P vs non-P. I feel like if I go LR I'll need to buy springs and wheels and I'm just too old to deal with modding cars, but if I buy P, the wheels aren't my favorite and it may not be low enough (hate the wheel gap on these cars!), so I may need to mod either way, so a LR may make more sense. ugh.

 

[mmp151]

Hey Folks! Going to be a new Tesla owner (Model 3 Performance) here shortly. I'm coming from a 2020 m340 prior to that a 2018 S4 and 2014 335xi before that. Looking forward to the change since I've been wanting the Model 3 prior to its release. I just finished transferring my BMW lease this week and now I'm car-less. Right now my Tesla account shows a delivery range of Feb 18 to Mar 18, it doesn't look like a VIN's been assigned yet (used a Chrome plugin to check). Anyone's recent experience of when they're seeing deliveries within this month range?

 

[Jeffffffffff]

My gate date moved up again to February 23rd! Last date was for March 4th and before that it was March 18th.

 

[Venom]

My gate date moved up again to February 23rd! Last date was for March 4th and before that it was March 18th.

Nice. Is that from your order summary page? Or your friend?

 

[jeffcole]

anyone going to hold out for the potential tax credit?

 

[mmp151]

Nice. Is that from your order summary page? Or your friend?

Does someone have an insider who has better delivery fidelity then what's captured in our accounts?

 

[1.21Jigawatts]

Does someone have an insider who has better delivery fidelity then what's captured in our accounts?

My range is 2/19-2/26 and I have a VIN but has not been scheduled as I type this. I txt my SA and he told me the target date is 2/22 in the computer. If u don't know your SA you can call customer service to find out who they are.

 

[mmp151]

My range is 2/19-2/26 and I have a VIN but has not been scheduled as I type this. I txt my SA and he told me the target date is 2/22 in the computer. If u don't know your SA you can call customer service to find out who they are.

Got it, thanks! I'm surprised my range is a month compares to others which looks to be a week. Hope it changes soon, thanks!