You mean how they originally advertised as such on their website and then later removed all those pages/references on their website?
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Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room
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John in LB
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The seat in the Y is comparable to the 2nd row seat of the X in terms of cushion, recline slightly. However, there is more width and height available in the X. Also, the Y driver and passenger seat are a little too tall at the shoulder (great for sales) and it blocks the view of the front for the passengers in the 2nd row seats.
The ride of the Y is harder / harsher than the X.
Otherwise, I do think they should be improving the seat in the 2nd row of the X to correspond with all of the other upgrades in the S.
Elon tweeted that information about radar not distinguishing vehicles vs overpasses. Please, Take it up with him.You know that's complete rubbish right? Radar can of course do this. We use radar to track ballistic missiles and intercept them. It can clearly determine the exact height. Tesla stopping using radar because it requires a decision when they disagree. Rather than do proper sensor fusion they went pure vision to meet Elon's lies about the FSD timeline. Even that failed because pure vision is not the entire solution.
Tesla knows that radar works. They used to have good ambition for it to rival lidar
Tesla Using Radar to Generate Point Clouds for Autonomous Driving
Despite editorials arguing that Tesla is irresponsible for excluding LiDAR from the sensor package that enables autonomous and semi-autonomous driving in its cars, it looks like Elon Musk is stickingwww.geoweeknews.com
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For some reason, phantom braking is a mess with radar. I can attest to that. Vision diminished it. I am reporting personal experience.
gglockner
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Considering other promises from Elon, I don’t believe anything he says without independent confirmation.
Has anyone figured out the issue with opening the charge port door with charger button? Mine worked like the first 2 times and then never again. I’ve tried it at home with a Tesla wall charger and I’ve tried it at a supercharger, no luck.
This is just such BS by Tesla. The company has no customer service strategy, no sense of right and wrong, and absolutely no shame.
kingjones94
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kingjones94
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Nope they claim to have ordered “parts” for my issues. Which wont come til april 3rd. The experience should be better
kingjones94
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And this is scrapping my interior every time my left FWD opens. Eventually its gonna get bad. Idk why they cant just make an appointment for the things they can fix now instead of making me wait all the way tik april 5th
For RADAR. RADAR sets run the gamut from hand held devices (cops, fastball velocity measuring, etc.) to gun control radars (AN/APG-68 - F-16). Handhelds are fine for pedestrian tasks, but not for much more. RADAR accuracy depends heavily on RF frequency (wavelength). The lower frequencies (longer wavelengths) have difficulty detecting smaller objects; higher frequencies are good at it. Also, lower frequencies generally require larger antennas. Lower frequencies are less affected by moisture. And - RADAR sets on-a-chip (or chipset) have been around for a long time. Cost and weight are probably not factors. Have no idea what band Tesla's RADAR works in. Having said all that - I'm happy with the RADAR set on my 2018 X 100D. Yeah, I get the phantom stops but I've figured out how to deal with it. I'm more of a participant in the EAP process than a passenger. Just returned from a trip to the Washington Coast (clams and crabs - yeah!) Very pleasant both ways.You know that's complete rubbish right? Radar can of course do this. We use radar to track ballistic missiles and intercept them. It can clearly determine the exact height. Tesla stopping using radar because it requires a decision when they disagree. Rather than do proper sensor fusion they went pure vision to meet Elon's lies about the FSD timeline. Even that failed because pure vision is not the entire solution.
Tesla knows that radar works. They used to have good ambition for it to rival lidar
Tesla Using Radar to Generate Point Clouds for Autonomous Driving
Despite editorials arguing that Tesla is irresponsible for excluding LiDAR from the sensor package that enables autonomous and semi-autonomous driving in its cars, it looks like Elon Musk is sticking
My vote - keep the RADAR and don't rely on it too much.
And - I'm still waiting. 1/29/2021 X LR 6 seat order and seeing a July EDD.
Bob
My 2022 MYP was cancelled because it was ordered before a couple price increases and I put it on hold. They cancelled it and would not reinstate it. Said I would have to put in a new order at the new higher price.
Man I head to Disney for a few days and this thread turns into the radar versus vision debate thread.
Still stuck at july for my 5/6/21 5 seat order but hopeful since folks with later order dates than me have gotten date ranges already so I’m hoping May might be my month.
Still stuck at july for my 5/6/21 5 seat order but hopeful since folks with later order dates than me have gotten date ranges already so I’m hoping May might be my month.
They forced me to take or cancel my release-night MY order by 12/31/21.
I’m not caught up on posts today re: what Sawyer Merrit said, but my intuition is this is another way to push early orders further back.
Even if SAs say it won’t impact your place in line, I would be very skeptical. Don’t forget rule #1 is to not trust what SAs say.
“Oh, you had a date range, but we pre-sold all black paint for 9 months. Sorry, we forgot to mention that part.”
studioloft
Gavin
Just a little positive encouragement for those of you feeling down about the delay in deliveries.
We have all been waiting longer than expected, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel!
Speaking to the ramping of production, I added a column in the Historical Data Points called "Avg. Deliveries, Last 4 Weeks"
As a trend, the number seems to be increasing every cell. I highlighted the area I am speaking about below. I hope they keep scaling up like this!
docs.google.com
Side note, I genuinely forgot and just rediscovered the other forums on TMC.
I feel like many of us are laser focused on this thread. Just a psa - there are some other good threads out there 
We have all been waiting longer than expected, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel!
Speaking to the ramping of production, I added a column in the Historical Data Points called "Avg. Deliveries, Last 4 Weeks"
As a trend, the number seems to be increasing every cell. I highlighted the area I am speaking about below. I hope they keep scaling up like this!
Tesla Model X Orders Tracking - TeslaMotorsClub
Detail Order Tracking Tesla Model X Orders Tracking,Total Orders,985,Links: Enter your information on a new line below.,Undelivered,114,11.6%,<a href="https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/refreshed-2021-model-x-and-model-x-plaid-waiting-room.219586/">X Refresh Waiting Room - Forum</a> View an...
Side note, I genuinely forgot and just rediscovered the other forums on TMC.
I feel like many of us are laser focused on this thread. Just a psa - there are some other good threads out there 
Stro
Unhappy MX Owner
Opposite for myself and every friend I have with radar equipped. You’re the first to say the opposite. Interesting.
Day 420 for me. I’ve watched a half dozen of my exact car configuration be delivered over the last couple weeks that were ordered months after me, and still crickets. I’ve been tricked into a more expensive configuration with a promise of December 2021 delivery. Nothing but lies and deception. I will continue to wait for the X for all the reasons we already know, but this will be the last Tesla I ever order.
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