Remote S shows I only have 77kWh battery on my P90DL!

[ByByGas]

As the title states, not sure if they is accurate or not. I own a 2016 MX P90DL and have 41k miles, the Remote S app shows I have a 77 kWh battery. I understand about battery degradation but does this seem correct?

 

[BoerumHill]

90D/P90D came out of production with ~85.8 kWh total capacity, 81.8 kWh usable.

Looks like normal degradation for a ~ 3 year old pack.

 

[BoerumHill]

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[ByByGas]

90D/P90D came out of production with ~85.8 kWh total capacity, 81.8 kWh usable.

Looks like normal degradation for a ~ 3 year old pack.

Interesting, I did not know that. Thanks for sharing.

 

[BoerumHill]

Interesting, I did not know that. Thanks for sharing.

Yeah, folks love their badges - it's hilarious how upon virtually every SC meeting Tesla owners shuffle around to the backside to see what their new friend is driving (like dogs meeting in the park ) - but those numbers are not a true representation of what is inside the pack.

 

[space]

Yeah, folks love their badges - it's hilarious how upon virtually every SC meeting Tesla owners shuffle around to the backside to see what their new friend is driving (like dogs meeting in the park ) - but those numbers are not a true representation of what is inside the pack.

except in the 100 packs! these are ~102 kWh capacity with about 98.5 kWh usable

 

[Kristoffer Helle]

The first month... Sure...
My P85D has smaller pack than our 75D.
Haven't checked my P100 yet

 

[Wshowell]

I have the Remote S app but I don’t see the kWh on my app. Otherwise, it looks the same as yours with this one exception. Suggestions?

 

[Fiver]

I have the Remote S app but I don’t see the kWh on my app. Otherwise, it looks the same as yours with this one exception. Suggestions?

Tap the screen at the bottom to the left of the odo and it will change what it shows.

 

[Wshowell]

Tap the screen at the bottom to the left of the odo and it will change what it shows.

Nope. Nothing. iPhone XS Max. No change when I tap anywhere in that area.

 

[Wshowell]

Nope. Nothing. iPhone XS Max. No change when I tap anywhere in that area.

Got it! Thank you. My 70 is now a 69 but that’s not bad for 67k miles.

 

[PatrickCH4313]

except in the 100 packs! these are ~102 kWh capacity with about 98.5 kWh usable

This is correct for the 100 kWh pack.
Attached some data.

 

[FlatSix911]

Actual battery pack capacities when new... Tesla’s hacked Battery Management System exposes the real usable capacity of its battery packs

Now the data is directly from Tesla’s software and not a calculation based on the capacity of cells from a tear down of a pack.
He gathered similar data from other Tesla models. Here’s a list he sent to Electrek:

• Original 60 – ~61 kWh total capacity, ~58.5 kWh usable.
• 85/P85/85D/P85D – ~81.5 kWh total capacity, ~77.5 kWh usable
• 90D/P90D – ~85.8 kWh total capacity, 81.8 kWh usable
• Original 70 – ~71.2 kWh total capacity, 68.8 kWh usable
• 75/75D – 75 kWh total capacity, 72.6 kWh usable
• Software limited 60/60D – 62.4 kWh usable
• Software limited 70/70D – 65.9 kWh usable

As you can see, sometimes the rounding is actually in Tesla’s disadvantage on total capacity, but it’s never the case for usable capacity.