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Remove the 'Dislike' Button?

Discussion in 'Site Feedback' started by Jeff N, Aug 15, 2016.

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Should the 'dislike' button on forum posts be removed?

  1. The 'dislike' button should be removed

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  2. The 'dislike button should be retained

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  1. Jeff N

    Jeff N Active Member

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    #1 Jeff N, Aug 15, 2016
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    The 'dislike' button is that small "thumbs down" icon in the bottom right corner of another person's forum post that can be used for giving negative (often ambiguous) feedback. The other various feedback button choices give positive feedback.

    I think human nature trends toward the negative on the Internet and I think one-click poo flinging is an unnecessary feature. If you disagree with a post I think you have an obligation to explain what you object to and why. I think the dislike button should be removed.

    What do you think? Please vote.
     
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  2. Zextraterrestrial

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    I think it is used properly sometimes. Like if I wrote something about someone keying my car..Or Iceing at superchargers....a dislike is appropriate for that, right?
     
  3. NikeWings

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    All removed or none..........
    What's wrong with us; we can only handle people who agree with us? Zzzzzzzzz
     
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  4. Max*

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    I don't agree with you.
     
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  5. MorrisonHiker

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    Sometimes I wish the Dislike was really a Disagree.
     
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  6. TexasEV

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    No. A dislike is if someone disagrees with the opinion expressed in your post, not if you describe bad behavior by others!
     
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  7. BluestarE3

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    To me, a "dislike" to such a post seems like the person doesn't like the fact that you complained about having your car keyed or a charging stall ICEd. In other words, the person disliked what you said rather than what happened to you.
     
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  8. NikeWings

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    That's OK Max, I'm totally cool with that.....whether you like it or not! :p
     
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  9. taurusking

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    I think "dislike" icon should be removed.

    If I disagree with someone does not mean I would mark that as "dislike"...I would rather have "disagree" button.

    Well someone gave my post "dislike" without actually understanding what it means
     
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  10. Jeff N

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    You clicked the dislike button on my post above.

    Did you dislike what I wrote or were you agreeing that you dislike the dislike button? It gets ambiguous sometimes and can result in confused and hurt feelings.

    I know what you meant because you bothered to reply (thanks!) but often people click 'dislike' and do not explain what they are disliking.

    Sure, maybe there is a need for 'sad' and 'angry' buttons so people can react to a post about a charging space being ICE'd. I noticed that Facebook has those now but does not have a "thumbs down" to match its generic positive "thumbs up" emoticon. I think TMC should follow the same pattern.
     
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  11. Canuck

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    The problem, as I see it, is that if we have a "like" button, then order to have the opposite we need a "dislike" button. Both words are childish, 15 year old mentality, emotional comment buttons.

    Instead, we should have "agree" and "disagree" buttons. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing. Good debate leads to the path forward.

    "Disliking" something is derogatory in nature and leads to hurt feelings which moves us backwards -- not forwards, in a debate.
     
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  12. kort677

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    what a shame that so many are so fragile that they take someone's disagreements with them so seriously. if it was someone I know who I respected disagreed with me I'd take their views seriously, but the opinion of an anonymous person on the internet doesn't carry all that much weight in my book.
     
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  13. Canuck

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    It's not disagreement, it's disliking. There's a difference and it's not a subtle one.

    I also don't see someone who has their feelings hurt easily, and who is fragile, as being such a bad thing. In my view, there's a place for sensitive people in this world, just as much as we need insensitive, stoic people.

    But leaving that aside, shouldn't we strive to make this forum as mature as possible? Or do we just dumb ourselves down to the level of most 15 year olds posting on Facebook? Because, in my view, that's where this place has headed since the change to the new format.

    In fact, my kids told me Facebook doesn't even have a "Dislike" button..
     
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  14. Jeff N

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    I'm not so sure that the choices have to be symmetric.

    Few people get upset if someone gives them generic positive feedback by clicking a 'like' or 'agree' button on their post but if someone 'dislikes' or 'disagrees' they might be offended -- especially if the feedback is ambiguous and they are left to guess or make worst-case assumptions about what the feedback really means.

    Therefore, I think innocuous "thumbs up" is fine and maybe purely emotional feedback like 'sad' are fine but someone who wants to express 'dislike' or 'disagree' as an opinion should be encouraged to explain what their feedback is in more detail by having to write a real forum reply.
     
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    #15 BluestarE3, Aug 15, 2016
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    Unfortunately, removing the "Like" button along with everything else just invites a lot of extraneous "+1" posts. If we need to have binary options, then I'd rather have "Agree" and "Disagree" as suggested by @Canuck above.
     
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  16. CmdrThor

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    The dislike button I think is working just fine as is. I like being able to click on someone's profile and get a glance at how their posts are received. There's nothing wrong with having some dislikes, not everyone is going to agree with you. But if someone has 90% dislikes and very few of their posts are liked, they are likely a troll.

    Consequently sometimes I'll see a post that several people have disliked but I agree with. I'll make sure to like it so the person knows at least some people agree with them.

    And it absolutely should be used towards the poster, not towards the situation.

    If having your posts disliked is hurting your feelings, you probably shouldn't be on an internet forum.
     
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  17. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

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    +1 Dislike.

    I actually find there are few Dislikes here. And of course, while I do disagree with the idea, I only added a Dislike for ironic effect.

    If I get a Dislike, I don't take it personally because I know that they're wrong.
     
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  18. Canuck

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    We then we will agree to disagree. Or do we like to dislike? I think some people do like to dislike. And for me, using something towards the poster, rather than the situation, is basically an ad hominem attack, which is something I think we should really strive to avoid.
     
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  19. BluestarE3

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    #19 BluestarE3, Aug 15, 2016
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    I think what he may have meant was the "dislike" should be applied to what was said by the poster, rather than to the issue/situation being discussed. I don't think he was advocating its use for ad hominem attacks.
     
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    #20 EinSV, Aug 15, 2016
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    The "Dislike" button can be useful in certain circumstances.

    For example, if someone is trolling, a simple "Dislike" is a way to respond to their message without engaging in a pointless debate that is not only a complete waste of time but can end up derailing an otherwise useful thread.
     
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