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Removing Middle Seat from 7-seat Configuration

Discussion in 'Model X: Interior & Exterior' started by fengshui, Apr 19, 2016.

  1. UncaNed

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    What happens if you need to have Tesla service your car after you've removed a seat? Won't they have to insist on replacing it before they can release the car if it doesn't meet the original safety specs?
     
  2. MDR SEA

    MDR SEA 2015 Model S 85D, 2016 Model X 90D

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    My aim is to remove for camping and replace for day to day.
    However, replacing requires recalibration with the Tesla Toolkit software or an opportunity to hack.

    Ultimately I want to replace the 2016 2nd row with the 2017 fold down version.
    Probably have to wait until there are more salvage vehicles available.

    MDR
     
  3. UncaNed

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    Assuming a 5 seat, 2018 Model X, what happens if I remove a seat and disconnect all associated wires... and then purchase Auto Pilot? Would there be download or installation trouble? I see references to some sort of problems with updates or something after committing such shenanigans... ?
     
  4. MDR SEA

    MDR SEA 2015 Model S 85D, 2016 Model X 90D

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    Use a 3rd party programmer.
    Your 5 seat config is fold flat, right?
    Why would you want to remove that?
    If it's tan, I'd like to swap with you.
    MDR
     
  5. UncaNed

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    Need the space behind the driver to be lower, otherwise it's unusable to me. There's not much space between the ceiling and the surface of the folded second row seats. Black, not tan. How does one find a capable 3rd party programmer? What might I expect to pay them?
     
  6. MDR SEA

    MDR SEA 2015 Model S 85D, 2016 Model X 90D

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    Here - Tesla Service - repair, update firmware, navigation maps
     
  7. UncaNed

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    Wow! Thanks a bunch.

    FYI the 5 seat configuration, 60/40 second row, the "60" part of the seat alone has 10 electric connectors to the wiring harness, requiring removal of the seat back; this for a seat with no heat, no power adjustments, just a mechanical release to fold the back forwards, no fore and aft adjustment. 6 flange nuts hold the seat to the frame, removable with a 15 mm wrench (or 5/8' in a pinch). Where exactly are the seat mounted airbags in the 5-seat model X manufactured February 2018?
     
  8. MDR SEA

    MDR SEA 2015 Model S 85D, 2016 Model X 90D

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    I dunno.
    Thanks for the 5 seat info.
    I'm thinking (hoping) that the wiring for all the 2nd row seating is in place.
     
  9. UncaNed

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    You mean if I remove the seat, then put the same, original seat back, it won't work again until I recalibrate it?
    -Meaning my car won't work, or updates and downloads won't work till it's recalibrated?
     
  10. Meagain

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    I also want to remove the 2nd row. I'm looking at the 5-seater. Perhaps leave the smaller of the seats.
     
  11. MDR SEA

    MDR SEA 2015 Model S 85D, 2016 Model X 90D

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    Dunno.
    Service manual just sez recalibrate with Tesla ToolKit software.
     
  12. Paul8810

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    I can confirm if you remove a seat firmware updates will fail because it can’t communicate with the missing module. Before installing updates, I need to plug the seat back in (no need to recalibrate) and the update installs successfully.
     
  13. UncaNed

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    I see the easily accessible black module under the seat. Would it work if I just replace the black module? Or would I still need to replace the whole seat and all 10 wire harness connections?
     
  14. PILOT RAVI

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    Thats exactly what I am waiting to do.
     
  15. MDR SEA

    MDR SEA 2015 Model S 85D, 2016 Model X 90D

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    Thanks Paul.
    Have you already removed your seats?
    If so can you share some photos?

    MDR
     
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    I ended up ordering the six seater floor mat that hides the opening. But here is a picture with the floor mat removed.
    962478D0-05C6-4D60-89E6-73C11C6427A0.jpeg

    If you try that, let me know! Up to now I just replace the entire seat.
     
  17. MDR SEA

    MDR SEA 2015 Model S 85D, 2016 Model X 90D

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    Thanks Paul,

    Do you have any photos of your X with seats removed?

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    MDR SEA 2015 Model S 85D, 2016 Model X 90D

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    Oye.
    I just re-read your post title - removing the middle seat.
    I thought you had removed all 2nd row seats.
    How much of a chore was it to remove the seat?
    Shop manual shows quite a few steps to get to the base.

    You might check with these guys for a 7 to 6 seat software fix - Tesla Service - repair, update firmware, navigation maps
     
  19. UncaNed

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    2018 Model X 5-seat, second row, double seat removed. Not sure what to do when update time comes. Replacing the seat then removing it after the update would be a hassle. Photos of the seat-mounted control module, harness with 10 plugs, and underside of the removed seat-
    20180331_163748.jpg Tesla-seat-harness-sm.jpg
    Tesla-seat-underneath.jpg
     
  20. Meagain

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    Darn - that looks like a nightmare to remove the 5 seater 2nd row. Tho' IDK why there is all those electronics involved given the seat doesn't even slide and especially if one gets the non heated 2nd row seats. :(
     

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