They're all old posts where as the info on their website is the latest and the UK site indicates a range of 100 miles NEDC COMBINED. Your article links indicate that last year Renault engineers were hoping to increase the range by up to 40%...great if they could...I suppose we just wait and see...
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Some say the Zoë will be ready for 'quick charging'
. Is this quick charging in terms of 22+ kW AC (3 phase) of 'quick charge' with DC, for example with CHAdeMO protocol?
The statement '80% capacity in half an hour', what does it mean? Charging with AC, or DC?
If it's the last option, then where is the CHAdeMO plug located?
About the Mode 1 and 2 discussion: According to the IEC standard, current is limited to 1 phase, 16 Amps when charging in Mode 1 and 2. However, Renault is developing a more specific version of the IEC standard in which they wants to limit Mode 1 and 2 charging to 10 or even 8 Amps.
. Is this quick charging in terms of 22+ kW AC (3 phase) of 'quick charge' with DC, for example with CHAdeMO protocol?
The statement '80% capacity in half an hour', what does it mean? Charging with AC, or DC?
If it's the last option, then where is the CHAdeMO plug located?
About the Mode 1 and 2 discussion: According to the IEC standard, current is limited to 1 phase, 16 Amps when charging in Mode 1 and 2. However, Renault is developing a more specific version of the IEC standard in which they wants to limit Mode 1 and 2 charging to 10 or even 8 Amps.
ZOE charging is at 63A 400V 3 Phase AC (43kW). Today, no Renault cars support CHAdeMO DC Charging but it would be surprising if that does not change given the Renault-Nissan Alliance.
http://www.renault-ze.com/en-gb/electric-motoring/renault-z.e.-in-detail/electric-cars-charging-renault-z.e.-1966.html
According to IEC 61851-1{ed2.0} Mode 2 supports up to 32A. Any OEM can restrict the amount of current that an EVSE can supply to less than the maximum allowed by the standard.
350 km in 2014 (with Nissan NMC batteries, i think).
Renault fait reposer sa stratégie électrique sur Zoe | BFM Business
Renault fait reposer sa stratégie électrique sur Zoe | BFM Business
That is actually very nice!
Total is placing the same kind of chargers (or EVSE) in Belgium. Those both have 50kW CHAdeMO or 44kW 63A AC 3-phase.
Since the CHAdeMO charger is hooked up to a 3-phase AC connection it's trivial.
However, the 350km looks very nice for the ZOE, somewhere around 250km of real world? Great!
today the Kangoo has a monthly battery lease that starts at 72 Euros (95 USD) on a similar priced vehicle to the Gen 2 ZOE;
http://www.renault.com/en/vehicules/renault/pages/kangoo-ze.aspx
NISSAN ACCELERATES ROLL OUT OF EV QUICK CHARGE NETWORK IN EUROPE
* 400 quick chargers to be given away free by Nissan
* Installation in high profile locations starting February 2012
* Charge to 80% in 30 minutes
Quick Charge Technology
The new quick chargers are engineered to the CHAdeMo standard and can deliver up to 50 kW of high voltage direct current (DC) electricity. The CHAdeMO - Charge to Move - standard was developed and agreed by a coalition of Japanese companies including Nissan, Toyota, Mitsubishi and Fuji Heavy Industries. Nissan's QCs, therefore, can be used not just by drivers of Nissan LEAF but also by drivers of EVs from Mitsubishi, Citroen and Peugeot. The QC stations are also ‘AC ready' to support the arrival of EVs from Alliance partner Renault designed to 43kW AC quick charge standards. The Renault-Nissan Alliance is promoting infrastructure deployment based on AC-DC Mix Quick Charger strategy.
43 quick COMBO chargers in Spain.
* 400 quick chargers to be given away free by Nissan
* Installation in high profile locations starting February 2012
* Charge to 80% in 30 minutes
Quick Charge Technology
The new quick chargers are engineered to the CHAdeMo standard and can deliver up to 50 kW of high voltage direct current (DC) electricity. The CHAdeMO - Charge to Move - standard was developed and agreed by a coalition of Japanese companies including Nissan, Toyota, Mitsubishi and Fuji Heavy Industries. Nissan's QCs, therefore, can be used not just by drivers of Nissan LEAF but also by drivers of EVs from Mitsubishi, Citroen and Peugeot. The QC stations are also ‘AC ready' to support the arrival of EVs from Alliance partner Renault designed to 43kW AC quick charge standards. The Renault-Nissan Alliance is promoting infrastructure deployment based on AC-DC Mix Quick Charger strategy.
43 quick COMBO chargers in Spain.
Mitrovic
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Just got an invitation by Renault. The Zoe will have its world premiere in its definitive form at Geneva!
Mitrovic
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Well, I guess the official ceremony should be one day before the salon opens. I did not get the invitation for this reveal, but VIP tickets for the backstage and the "Zoe House"...
Mitrovic
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What 's new is that the Renault site does not say deliveries autumn 2012 but it says in the middle of 2012!
The site did tell us before that the price will be under 15 000 Euro, and now it tells us that the price has not been determined yet!
The site did tell us before that the price will be under 15 000 Euro, and now it tells us that the price has not been determined yet!
I've been keeping a watch on the delivery dates on the Renault site. For France the site says mid 2012 and has pretty much always said this. For the uk, its Autumn 2012 and has been like this for a long time.
Not sure about switzerland but the french language site says end of 2012 and the german language Swiss site says autumn 2012. All very confusing.
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