dark cloud
Active Member
Wow, hope you got a good deal on that one
Battery and motors all still good after that violent of a crash?
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Battery and motors all still good after that violent of a crash?
Wow, hope you got a good deal on that one
Battery pack was twisted so wouldn't be usable in another car. I think we managed to recover most of the modules, though. The motor needed some repairs.
SigRed12
Member
@wk057 , I have a Tesla Certified Repair center that is willing to take my $$ and replace both b-pillars to factory spec. Would you be willing to talk about AP1 -> 3 then? I am also having them replace my solid roof with the solid glass option (without the cross beam) as well as install the AP2+ windshield. So yeah, I'm basically building a new car with a Signature VIN. Also, after all the hardware and equipment modifications are installed, what is the highest level of ADAS I can expect to be able to configure? FSD, NoA, EAP, AP, etc?
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There's no way what you want to do is cost effective vs selling and buying. Replacing one B-pillar is literally a 5-figure job, let alone two plus a roof retrofit. That's just insane to me. But hey, it's your money, do what you want.
Regardless, you'll have to disconnect the vehicle from Tesla to be able to do what you want to do these days anyway. Any time an option is changed, their teleforce bot reaches in and resets it back to what their server side says. You will also need to hack the gateway to allow you to change the autopilot options at all in the first place, since for the past couple of years these options have been locked down via cryptographic signatures. At that point you can set whatever you like all the way up to FSD (which does nothing anyway unless you have the beta software, so, no real point). Then every time you want to install an update, the gateway will need re-patching.
To me, it's really a silly project, honestly, and a huge waste of time and money. AP0-AP1 at least required no structural changes. And AP1 is actually useful for trips and such. In my extensive experience, AP2/3 are complete garbage still from a usability standpoint vs AP1 in the areas where you'd actually want functional AP (highway trips).
So... yeah, I dunno. You'd have to really love your car to bother with any of this, because you'd never recoup the value, plus it just adds headaches (connectivity, required hacks, etc).
SigRed12
Member
Thanks, that's feedback I was looking for. Guess I'll stick with my AP1 Sig car until the battery gives out or it's a total loss. It's pushing 10yrs old and still makes me smile when I get behind the wheel.
BigNick
Infamous Fat Sweaty Guy
AP1 is still better at what it is able to do.
While I've never owned an AP2 Model S, I traded in an AP1 P85DL for a 2022 Model 3 Performance (AP3), and TACC on the radar-less 3 is damn near unusable with all the phantom lifting/braking.
On a two-lane 55 MPH (non-divided) highway with a gentle right-hand curve to it, AP1 TACC would maintain the set speed until traffic in my lane required it to gently slow a bit. On the same road, the 3 is panicking all the time, briefly thinking the oncoming traffic is coming right for it, scrubbing off speed constantly before realizing "it's not coming right for us."
It's bad enough to the point where you have to hover your foot over the accelerator to be ready for this, a very unsafe practice - in a real panic-braking situation, you might actually hit the accelerator.
I'd rank AP1 with convenient features (turn signal to change lane) above AP3 with EAP. AP1 is confident, smooth , and never phantom brakes. Can't believe with basic AP on new models you have to disengage. I would hate that. The only thing I miss from the non-existent AP upgrade is sentry/dashcam.
I’m a 2014s85 owner. Three things I would like are the ability to swap my battery pack from a 85 to a 90 or 100. To swap my motor to either a performance, or if somehow possible the Rivian motor for better efficiency? And 3rd to enable the bloody ambient lights I bought and installed. Lol. I have tried to get tesla to enable those lights and they won’t even do it if I offer to pay.
1 foot driving is what everyone does today with any Tesla and every automatic transmission ICE car.Is it possible to upgrade a 2018 model x / s induction motor to a permanent magnet motor and do a config change to get 1 foot driving
I think you mean "1 pedal" driving.
Yeah. I went from a 6 speed to a used model X which drives a little different than our model Y1 foot driving is what everyone does today with any Tesla and every automatic transmission ICE car.
I think you mean "1 pedal" driving.
I have OpenPilot setup and it's alright but it's not the same (big unit on windshield, no braking control (just regen), etc.) especially compared to my wife's X with AP1. How much of the $10k is the windshield replacement? With car prices the way they are (especially with Tesla), I'm thinking of getting AP1 retrofitted when my windshield is cracked and I can get insurance to pay out for it.
Cold weather package (heated rear seats and steering wheel at least), updated visors with lighted vanity mirrors (including wiring). Can you retrofit occupancy sensors in rear seats that don't have them?
SigRed12
Member
This is what I did and it worked out great. Full AP0 -> AP1 conversion is great. As it stands now, AP1 car costs significantly more than an AP0 car + $10k.
