Gauss Guzzler
Safety Score = 42
Indeed. If the outside temperature is so important to you that you can't risk the slightest interruption in accuracy, you should get out.
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Reuters: "Tesla readies revamped Model 3 with project 'Highland' -sources" [projected 3rd quarter 2023]
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danarcha
Member
Do you know how much money Tesla is saving by eliminating temperature sensors? About $5 per car.
Thermistor
(EDIT) Oops... That is for a pack of 5. So I guess it's more like $1 per car. Yep, kudos to Elon for keeping Tesla profitable!!
jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
The cost of sensors aren't the entire reason as to why Tesla keeps dropping them. It's more about simplifying the wiring harness.
Depending on what temperature database is used by Tesla to provide exterior temperature, I submit that very little information will be lost. Besides, I never thought that a car's exterior temperature sensor was really that representative of local conditions. The location of the sensor has to be a controlling factor.
pdx_m3s
Active Member
Lemme guess, you supported passenger lumbar and frunk bag hook delete…
BigNick
Infamous Fat Sweaty Guy
There is a larger area of the continental US without effective cell service than you might think. Unless the cars will be using Starlink as a backup.
I highly doubt you will be getting hyper localized temperature readings from the internet connection of the vehicle. Therefore what you are going to be left with a temperature reading from the nearest city/town with a temperature reporting system. Personally I would like to know when I'm in an area that the temperatures are approaching or below 32f, then I know I need to be careful on bridges overpasses, etc...
As for higher resolution cameras, I'll hold off on any judgement until I see what it can / can't enable. I don't have and don't want FSD so improving FSD means absolutely nothing to me. I made that mistake on my first Model 3.
As for higher resolution cameras, I'll hold off on any judgement until I see what it can / can't enable. I don't have and don't want FSD so improving FSD means absolutely nothing to me. I made that mistake on my first Model 3.
jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
I don't support removing any feature. I'm just pointing out that Tesla is fixated on simplifying the wiring harness.
Land Rover even project underneath view without any camera there, it is just based on "memory" of front view camera. Why tesla cannot do even the 360?
just FYI... 360 birdseye and front cameras have been standard in many vehicles for YEARS now. and they also come with radar. and USS. and temp sensor.
bingo.
just one scenario where it matters... you drive from a village (cell phone reception) up into the mountains (no cell reception). at start you have 38F (= no risk for ice patches forming) but higher up in the mountains it's 28F ... meanwhile your car will continue to show the temp from the village when you last had reception. That displayed temperature is utterly useless then and can't even be remotely used to be aware of potentially slippery roads.
in older VWs when the exterior sensor came close to reading 0 Celsius - a frost symbol would appear to alert the driver of potential ice on the road.
Last weekend, we were going to take a drive up Pikes Peak. While the weather down in Colorado Springs was quite pleasant, a few miles away, at the top of Pikes Peak it was only -14F and felt like -31F. We decided to wait for a slightly warmer day.
And that's just a normal day in Colorado.
We postponed the trip due to the temperature/wind chill. It's been a couple years since we've been to the top of Pikes Peak so I can't remember how good the cell phone coverage is there. I do know we lose cell coverage in many other places in the mountains, including the drive up Mt. Evans.
maybe we shouldn't be celebrating the deletion of USS/ temp sensors and whatnot while claiming that in return we finally get 360 birdseye view and a radar .... why not both? especially as radar was deleted years ago and now being added back on
Unless it's an oil leak (after all, it's a Land Rover). But in that case, memory doesn't help!Underneath view. Too funny One had better know whats going to be under them when offroading, not when they're already over it.
We can easily have 20 degrees of temperature fluctuation while driving 20 miles (to the ski area) in our vicinity. It is the difference between ice on the road or not and it happens frequently. You do want to know because you drive differently.
I’m not celebrating any of that. I’m just ok with how they operate and what it produces and still have hopes of future features.
Guess I’m just not smart enough to criticize and question all future changes that I can’t comprehend how they might possibly solve the problem.
