TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker and becoming a Supporting Member. For more info: Support TMC
Start a Discussionhttps://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/tags/

Reveal Part 3 - AR Glasses

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by phenrikand, Nov 27, 2016.

Tags:
  1. phenrikand

    phenrikand New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2016
    Messages:
    1
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    Here is an idea/speculation. Instead of a HUD, Tesla will announce AR Glasses that will show the driver all useful information such as speed, speed limit, directions, battery level etc. Model 3 will be shipped as revealed without a traditional dash, if you don't want to see this information on the centre screen you need to purchase these AR glasses. All Model S/Xs produced from April 1st will include the AR vision. For older S/Xs and Model 3 it will be a $2,500 accessory.
     
    • Disagree x 4
    • Love x 1
  2. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    16,120
    Sounds kludgy, but I'm open to being convinced.
     
    • Like x 1
  3. astrothad

    astrothad Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2015
    Messages:
    68
    Location:
    Long Beach, CA
    Considering Elon's obsession with aesthetics, I doubt he will ever make drivers of his cars don glasses in order to drive them. Consider how they would look when placed over the glasses of someone who already needs corrective lenses.

    I strongly suspect we'll see a HUD instead. Here's hoping we know for sure within 4 months...
     
  4. BluestarE3

    BluestarE3 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2016
    Messages:
    2,652
    Location:
    Norcal
    How will this work for those of us who wear corrective eyeglasses? Similarly, for sunglass wearers.
     
    • Like x 1
  5. JeffK

    JeffK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2016
    Messages:
    5,357
    Location:
    Indianapolis
    #5 JeffK, Nov 27, 2016
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2016
    With the large amount of glass alone I feel like many drivers will be wearing sunglasses. This would have to fit in with sunglasses and eyeglasses... Such a device would be bulky, awkward, and/or painful... sucks enough wearing 3D glasses at IMAX.

    I think an OLED display embedded into the windshield is much simpler and would work with anyone with any glasses and in direct sunlight.



    panasonic makes one too
     
  6. Hodginator

    Hodginator Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2013
    Messages:
    254
    Location:
    Virginia
    Interesting idea, but I think it is very unlikely.

    I think a HUD like no other is in our future.
     
    • Like x 1
  7. MorrisonHiker

    MorrisonHiker S 90D 2017.34 2448cfc

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2015
    Messages:
    3,271
    Location:
    Colorado
    #7 MorrisonHiker, Nov 27, 2016
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2016
    I had an epiphany about this while walking the dogs a few days ago. I think it would be a great idea and easily allow the driver or anyone in the car to see AR. Using a HUD would only work for the driver and would probably be more expensive and complicated. Since the new supercomputer is already included in all cars being built, they would just need some sort or wireless technology to send the signal to the AR glasses. Theoretically it would be possible to add to all cars with AP 2 technology. Imagine night vision or virtual gauges where regular gauges would normally be located. Larger glasses could sit over prescription glasses. If it breaks, you'd still be able to drive, just without the AR features or stop by the SC to pick up a new pair. Broken windshield wouldn't necessarily be a problem.

    BMW and others are coming out with helmet prototypes and Tesla has hired several AR hardware guys over the past year.


     
  8. Dogwhistle

    Dogwhistle Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2015
    Messages:
    41
    Location:
    Dela-where?
    Ugh, I hope not
     
    • Like x 1
  9. S'toon

    S'toon Knows where his towel is

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2015
    Messages:
    2,516
    Location:
    SK
    This has been speculated about in other threads. It's not a unique idea. You'll be able to find them if you do a site search.

    As I've stated before, this would be a deal killer. This falls under the category of weirdmobile. I wear glasses. I have yet to find a set of safety goggles, dusk goggles, sun shades, gas mask, night vision goggles, etc. that wasn't extremely uncomfortable.

    I highly doubt anybody will want to put on a set of glasses and take them off just to drive a car. If there's going to be any form of "augmented reality" it'll be projected on the front window.

    That being said, the only feature I'd like to see of that "augmented reality" is linked to navigation, a highlight of exactly what lane I'm supposed to be taking when it says turn in such and such metres.
     
    • Like x 1
  10. modamoda

    modamoda Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2016
    Messages:
    50
    Location:
    Greater Seattle Area
    • Informative x 1
  11. MorrisonHiker

    MorrisonHiker S 90D 2017.34 2448cfc

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2015
    Messages:
    3,271
    Location:
    Colorado
    • Informative x 1
  12. alseTrick

    alseTrick Active Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2016
    Messages:
    1,399
    Location:
    Florida, USA
    Oh heck no. I would hate this.
     
    • Like x 2
  13. Flekoun

    Flekoun Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28
    Location:
    Czech republic
    No, Tesla wont offer their own AR glasses, there are better corporations which will deliver them (like Apple/Magic Leap). By the year 2018 the first AR glasses will hit market and people start buying them. The M3 will have no HUD or anything, just the center console for people without any AR glasses to see the speedometer. However when you enter the vehicle with your AR glasses, the Tesla application will kick in and you will see all the dashboard info right in front of your face. In 2020 the AR glasses will become mainstream and by 2025 there will be more people wearing AR glasses then smartphones today. Tesla knows this and therefore plans to make M3 interior as it is. There will be no major changes to interior, just the added support for 3rd party AR glasses.
     
    • Like x 1
    • Disagree x 1
  14. JeffK

    JeffK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2016
    Messages:
    5,357
    Location:
    Indianapolis
    You must mean Microsoft because Apple doesn't have these and Magic Leap has vaporware.

    People don't actually want AR glasses. They want the same experience with no glasses or any strange headgear.
     
    • Like x 3
  15. Flekoun

    Flekoun Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2016
    Messages:
    28
    Location:
    Czech republic
    Nope, microsoft Hololense AR glasses are cool, but will be destroyed by AR glasses released by Magic Leap and Apple in 2018-2019. Apple is working on their own AR glasses for a long time. I will not argue with you weather Magic Leap is vaporware or not as I do not have time for this. Do your homework first.
     
    • Disagree x 1
  16. JeffK

    JeffK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2016
    Messages:
    5,357
    Location:
    Indianapolis
    #16 JeffK, Dec 21, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2016
    They either have a product at market or they don't... heck they call their holographic waveguide a "photonic lightfield chip" as if it's truly unique.

    They've been making promises for over 2 years now.
    Vaporware - Wikipedia

    (and by all accounts they are optimistic about a late 2017 launch) keep in mind the magic leap one doesn't even have falcon wing doors to cause such a delay.
     
    • Funny x 1
  17. Chuq

    Chuq Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2015
    Messages:
    1,083
    Location:
    Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
    I missed this the first time it was posted, but remember: The Model 3 is a mass market, mainstream vehicle.
     
    • Like x 2
  18. Garlan Garner

    Garlan Garner Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2016
    Messages:
    5,734
    Location:
    Chicagoland
    Do you have a crystal ball or something? Do you have any Tesla links to verify any of this?
     
  19. gregd

    gregd Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2014
    Messages:
    1,231
    Location:
    CM98
    Before jumping to the conclusion of VR Goggles, perhaps consider that VR is inherently all about the representation and manipulation of a 3-D space, which is something that is core to any self-driving technology. The knowledge base and skills of these hires may be applied to the internal AutoPilot 2.x engine, and not even be externally visible.

    That said, adding all this up, I'm guessing that improving on a HUD display inside the car may be the most likely result.
     
  20. JeffK

    JeffK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2016
    Messages:
    5,357
    Location:
    Indianapolis
    No, someone who designs holographic HUDs and another who was the lead in interior design of the Porsche Mission E (His education is in Design as well).
    It is pretty clear what they'd be doing... and it won't be internal to the Autopilot software. If anything it'd be user facing.

    Now that's probably spot on. :)
     

Share This Page