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Rivian delayed again (now Sep for R1T, 2 month additional delay)
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It all depends on how you define FSD. Tesla has a general solution that can be rolled out worldwide without too much trouble. It will require, for the foreseeable future, hands on the wheel. Some people don't consider that FSD, but Tesla does.
Most other solutions are geolocked to specific areas. Even the much touted Phoenix Waymo has areas of the city it cannot drive into. It is truly driverless, but cannot drive as fast compared to a human and only works in certain areas. I wouldn't call this FSD, but Waymo does.
In the end, what matters is utility, not some adherence to some wacked out 5 level government "standard" that isn't applicable to the real world.
So far, Tesla's autopilot has helped far more people than other systems. We shall see what the future holds.
Most other solutions are geolocked to specific areas. Even the much touted Phoenix Waymo has areas of the city it cannot drive into. It is truly driverless, but cannot drive as fast compared to a human and only works in certain areas. I wouldn't call this FSD, but Waymo does.
In the end, what matters is utility, not some adherence to some wacked out 5 level government "standard" that isn't applicable to the real world.
So far, Tesla's autopilot has helped far more people than other systems. We shall see what the future holds.
RobDickinson
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Teslas solution with hands on wheels is safer than others that are hands off. I'm not sure that having hands free as a feature without having the associated capability is anything to brag about.
Rivian has not delivered single truck other than employees, to my knowledge. And also now this:
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"Rivian is prioritizing its Amazon delivery vans over R1T production: report"
"The production and impending deliveries of the Rivian R1T may be catching most of the electric vehicle community’s attention these days, but it appears that the truck maker may actually have a different priority in the near term. As per a recent report, Rivian is prioritizing the production of Amazon’s electric delivery van rather than the R1T pickup and the R1S SUV. "
Rivian is prioritizing its Amazon delivery vans over R1T production: report
The production and impending deliveries of the Rivian R1T may be catching most of the electric vehicle community’s attention these days, but it appears that the truck maker may actually have a different priority in the near term. As per a recent report, Rivian is prioritizing the production of...
www.teslarati.com
Rivian’s IPO filing reveals Amazon’s prime influence
Jeff Bezos’ company looms large over the EV startup.
www.theverge.com
Rivian has not delivered single truck other than employees, to my knowledge. And also now this:
"Rivian is prioritizing its Amazon delivery vans over R1T production: report"
"The production and impending deliveries of the Rivian R1T may be catching most of the electric vehicle community’s attention these days, but it appears that the truck maker may actually have a different priority in the near term. As per a recent report, Rivian is prioritizing the production of Amazon’s electric delivery van rather than the R1T pickup and the R1S SUV. "
Rivian is prioritizing its Amazon delivery vans over R1T production: report
The production and impending deliveries of the Rivian R1T may be catching most of the electric vehicle community’s attention these days, but it appears that the truck maker may actually have a different priority in the near term. As per a recent report, Rivian is prioritizing the production of...
Rivian’s IPO filing reveals Amazon’s prime influence
Jeff Bezos’ company looms large over the EV startup.
Called it, back in post #13.
Thanks for the follow-up.
September came and went. They have all of these media events hyping the pickup so lets hope they're not going let their customers down.
I doesn't seem that they're doing a great job with keeping their customers informed, either.
September came and went. They have all of these media events hyping the pickup so lets hope they're not going let their customers down.
Rivian has not delivered single truck other than employees, to my knowledge. And also now this:
"Rivian is prioritizing its Amazon delivery vans over R1T production: report"
"The production and impending deliveries of the Rivian R1T may be catching most of the electric vehicle community’s attention these days, but it appears that the truck maker may actually have a different priority in the near term. As per a recent report, Rivian is prioritizing the production of Amazon’s electric delivery van rather than the R1T pickup and the R1S SUV. "
Rivian is prioritizing its Amazon delivery vans over R1T production: report
The production and impending deliveries of the Rivian R1T may be catching most of the electric vehicle community’s attention these days, but it appears that the truck maker may actually have a different priority in the near term. As per a recent report, Rivian is prioritizing the production of...
Rivian’s IPO filing reveals Amazon’s prime influence
Jeff Bezos’ company looms large over the EV startup.
I doesn't seem that they're doing a great job with keeping their customers informed, either.
Merrill
Merrill
Yes it is a bit disappointing, they said that they were doing a tour of the US in September did that happen.
So is jerking steering wheel safer than touch sensitive steering wheel method too?
Ugh ok? I guess? It just seems to me (my common sense) there is no benefit from a safety perspective either way (eye tracking vs hands on). I guess you see (or is it feel for you?) it differently ;-)
Having used EAP for a few years I find it’s decision making (talking EAP not FSD as I have no experience with that ) to be less than adequate by my standards. Hands on or eye tracking is a red herring. Make the core functionality work bullet proof and attention verification method will be non issue.
RobDickinson
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Still dont know if Rivian have handed over a truck to an actual non employee yet?
At least lucid have managed that!
At least lucid have managed that!
Someone on the rivian forums who was told October for delivery by their guide has now been pushed to February. Yikes.
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