I think his terminology remains correct. Many people do not have a total federal tax obligation of 7500.
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jebinc
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I love the rivian vehicles but this is my biggest concern. Non tesla charging in the areas I travel aren’t close to where they need to be for me to take my family on a road trip. That and the nearest SC is 5 hours away.
Now if they somehow struck a deal with tesla and had tesla charge ports instead of CCS on their vehicles, I would be all over it.
I would probably wait a little bit to buy a Rivian.
They are focusing on not having to raise more funding, trying to scale new production facilities, and start their own private DCFC network. The Rivian forums give the impression that the vehicles have a variety of recurring issues.
I waited several years to buy a Tesla due to some of their earlier issues. I think it is fair to say every brand will have their own unique issues that plague the earlier models. Lastly, the DCFC isn’t where it needs to be. Rivian are thirsty, so those owners will become quite familiar with these stations.
They are focusing on not having to raise more funding, trying to scale new production facilities, and start their own private DCFC network. The Rivian forums give the impression that the vehicles have a variety of recurring issues.
I waited several years to buy a Tesla due to some of their earlier issues. I think it is fair to say every brand will have their own unique issues that plague the earlier models. Lastly, the DCFC isn’t where it needs to be. Rivian are thirsty, so those owners will become quite familiar with these stations.
jebinc
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I purchased a 2022 R1T at SN 9900, and zero build quality issues. Can’t say that for my 2021 MS Plaid, that’s base is nearly 10 years in the making….
@uthatcher
I had no issues whatsoever with my R1T build quality. It felt like it was very well-built.
There’s fake news and fake stats… Rivian was barely building vehicles in early 2022.
Q4 they built 10K.
Rivian Produced 10,020 Vehicles in Q4 2022 - Newsroom - Rivian
Rivian Automotive, Inc. today announced production totals for the quarter ending January 31, 2022
rivian.com
It’s nowhere near Tesla US production but comparable to Ford and VW production numbers.
Of course Tesla made more cars. Pretty obvious and quantity doesn’t mean quality.
If you build 48 cars per day, mostly hand built, the quality has to be better than Tesla, yet Rivian is still having issues.
It is a generalized statement. Every manufacturer will make cars with one-off issues, but newer model cars (even ICE cars) have issues that can plague them. Some people have sworn off buying the first year of a new generation/vehicle refresh due to their experience in the past. This will hold true for EV vehicles as well.
Rivian has their quirks with the tonneau cover and charging performance. It isn’t to say they make terrible vehicles, but what was prototyped and tested is finally getting a chance to function in the real world. Basically everyone needs to have their expectations properly set.
I hope you enjoy the Rivian, and you get your rattles fixed!
Rivian has their quirks with the tonneau cover and charging performance. It isn’t to say they make terrible vehicles, but what was prototyped and tested is finally getting a chance to function in the real world. Basically everyone needs to have their expectations properly set.
I hope you enjoy the Rivian, and you get your rattles fixed!
jebinc
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It's vibration, and that's on the Tesla MS Plaid. My Rivian doesn't rattle, or vibrate.
If you want to donate that POS MS Plaid, I will take it!
sleepydoc
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From what I recall, Tesla had much better quality early on. It seems like their quality issues coincided with their push to ramp up production and become profitable.If you build 48 cars per day, mostly hand built, the quality has to be better than Tesla, yet Rivian is still having issues.
Rivian losses $160,000 on every vehicle they sell. It better be well built. They will be out of business in 5 years. Executives are all leaving for a reason, they know.
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