AMPd
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I just don’t see the roadster coming this year. End of next year MAYBEWith the information from Investor Day and the progress being made on battery and motor developments, we may be seeing the Roadster in 2023.
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I just don’t see the roadster coming this year. End of next year MAYBEWith the information from Investor Day and the progress being made on battery and motor developments, we may be seeing the Roadster in 2023.
With the information from Investor Day and the progress being made on battery and motor developments, we may be seeing the Roadster in 2023.
On a poster perhaps? Tesla is in streamlining and optimizing mass production mode. Roadster would just be a distraction, not worth the resources. They will not sell enough of them for the project to pay for itself, and Elon doesn't need a new platform to experiment on, his way is to experiment on production cars. Between low volume Model S and X, and high volume 3 and Y, they have plenty of experimental cars and test drivers. With radar, without radar, with USS, without USS, new parts, old parts - Tesla test fleet is over a million cars strong and growing. Remember Elon boasting how they change production parts every 2 weeks? Elon also gave up boasting fastest production car or longest range EV car, since Tesla no longer holds either title, so the Roadster will go the way to Tesla Ride Sharing Network (robo-taxis), or Tesla Battery Swap, or probably closer to Plaid+ (which was the car announced out of Elon's hubris, after he heard of other cars which could beat Tesla on acceleration or range. Tesla even took deposits for it, but never delivered it.). Personally I think the bigger question is whether or not they will refund all Roadster deposits this year or next.With the information from Investor Day and the progress being made on battery and motor developments, we may be seeing the Roadster in 2023.
Personally I think the bigger question is whether or not they will refund all Roadster deposits this year or next.
While I think you correctly point out a little kink in the process, I don't think this is of any significance to Tesla. Plenty more youtubers paid real money for Full Self Driving when it was supposed to drive for Tesla Ride Sharing network and make them money (potentially more than a free Roadster's worth), and yet, Tesla just wipes all existence of that from the website, not even issue any refunds, and no youtuber outrage that bothers Tesla even a little bit (there is some, Tesla doesn't care).The Roadster deposits are easy to refund if/when they have to. The bigger problem is the hundreds of millions of dollars of free marketing they got from all the youtubers, websites, and bloggers who all got one or two "free" roadsters for their efforts. If Tesla renigs out of that deal, that's going to be huge trouble for them.
Ha ha, Elon said many times they are actively working robo taxis, battery swap, __insert_many_other_Elon_failed_inventions_here__. So what? It means absolutely NOTHING.While I don’t agree that it wouldn’t be a profitable car, I too am starting to wonder if it will ever get built. Perhaps I missed it but I didn’t see the Roadster prototype in any of the investor day photos. As someone who did have a Plaid+ deposit, this is disappointing. On the other hand Franz did say they were actively working on it and he’s a guy I trust. But if the priority is scaling huge and transitioning the Earth to sustainable energy, as it should be, I’m not sure where or when Roadster fits in there. Either they do it at a time that doesn’t make sense or they do it in 203X.
While I think you correctly point out a little kink in the process, I don't think this is of any significance to Tesla. Plenty more youtubers paid real money for Full Self Driving
Dropping $10K on FSD and expecting $30K-$40K a year from Tesla Ride Sharing Network, vs, dropping nothing on a Roadster "points" and expecting a free $250K Roadster. The only difference is $10K vs. $0 initial investment, both are supposed to bring free money from Tesla.Sure, but dropping $10k on FSD and not getting it is --A LOT-- different than reneging on a $250k 'free car' -- and in many cases, two free cars.
I never said anything about Elon. My words were "On the other hand Franz did say they were actively working on it and he’s a guy I trust." The implication in that sentence is that I don't trust Elon.Ha ha, Elon said many times they are actively working robo taxis, battery swap, __insert_many_other_Elon_failed_inventions_here__. So what? It means absolutely NOTHING.
"we are actively working on X" is a vague, non-committal answer. I think Elon is actually learning from Franz how to give such answers, because in the past he got into too much hot water actually committing to deliverables, dates, etc.I never said anything about Elon. My words were "On the other hand Franz did say they were actively working on it and he’s a guy I trust." The implication in that sentence is that I don't trust Elon.
Me too. A Taycan in the garage beats a Roadster deposit confirmation email in the Inbox every time.I'm rather glad I never put money down on one.
A Model 3 performance roadster version is more likely - a 2 seater version of a model 3, or maybe even Model 2. At $250K+inflation, the Roadster as is will be way too low volume and useless for Tesla - they already got most of the media hype out of the prototype, so it has already served its purpose.Roadster likely in 2027
Plaid did the trick and Elon was correct in that no "+" was needed.Me too. A Taycan in the garage beats a Roadster deposit confirmation email in the Inbox every time.
I wish I liked the Model S at all. Other than looks it’s a flop for me. I find it far less engaging than the 3. If I liked it’s driving dynamics even half as much as my P3 I’d buy one today.Plaid did the trick and Elon was correct in that no "+" was needed.
I wish I liked the Model S at all. Other than looks it’s a flop for me. I find it far less engaging than the 3. If I liked it’s driving dynamics even half as much as my P3 I’d buy one today.
So no Roadster needed either then? Plaid does the trick there too?Plaid did the trick and Elon was correct in that no "+" was needed.