Roadster 3.0

[dpeilow]

If the changes are really significant, seems strange that the car hasn't been spotted on an SF to LA run.

 

[JRP3]

Night run.

 

[Habious]

Night run.

Plus, how many people would notice a "Tesla Roadster with a non-standard body kit".

If we polled people here, I think the results would be skewed.

Half the people around here that talk to me about my car start by asking "What is it?"

 

[GVTesla]

Half the people around here that talk to me about my car start by asking "What is it?"

Lol, same here.

Guess we're all back to "wait and see". Maybe Jerome was more knowledgable than he claimed to be and we'll see some nice visible changes, or he was trying to respond to something he wasn't prepared for and the changes won't be as visible as he seemed to suggest. That said, I can't wait to hear more about the sweet candy that's coming to the candy shop!!

 

[bonnie]

Half the people around here that talk to me about my car start by asking "What is it?"

I always enjoy when someone driving a Model S says, "Oh, I didn't realize they were making a sports car now." Yep. Happens.

 

[smac]

I always enjoy when someone driving a Model S says, "Oh, I didn't realize they were making a sports car now." Yep. Happens.

Weirdly it's been the other way round here in the UK.

Most people, at least up until now, when hearing I had / was getting a Tesla have said: " oh that 2 seater thing from Top Gear"

 

[Chillout]

I keep on wondering whenever a small piece of information pops up, some websites start making up their own stories...
I started making up my own story:

:biggrin:

 

[ecarfan]

@Chillout, are those the Flux Capacitor exhaust ports I see in your image? ;-)

Okay, now trying to get this thread back on topic...

I've been wondering this: the 3.0 battery upgrade will use more advanced and stable cells than we currently have in our Roadster batteries. I am hoping that Tesla will change the firmware to get rid of the simplistic "Standard" and "Range" charge settings and go to a slider bar to set the charge, and that the new cells will mean we don't have to worry about doing too frequent 100% charges, just as Model S owners don't really have to concern themselves about it in the sense that while you should not routinely charge an S to 100% all the time, you can do it frequently and not worry about it.
Let the speculation commence...

 

[dhrivnak]

@Chillout, are those the Flux Capacitor exhaust ports I see in your image? ;-)

Okay, now trying to get this thread back on topic...

I've been wondering this: the 3.0 battery upgrade will use more advanced and stable cells than we currently have in our Roadster batteries. I am hoping that Tesla will change the firmware to get rid of the simplistic "Standard" and "Range" charge settings and go to a slider bar to set the charge, and that the new cells will mean we don't have to worry about doing too frequent 100% charges, just as Model S owners don't really have to concern themselves about it in the sense that while you should not routinely charge an S to 100% all the time, you can do it frequently and not worry about it.
Let the speculation commence...

How is that different than STD and Range?? For 99% of my charging I use standard and 1% I range charge. But with the new battery pack I assume that 1% would drop in half.

 

[ecarfan]

One difference is that currently, driving after a Roadster "Range" charge means you have much less power available when accelerating. I hate that.

Since I owned a Model S before a Roadster I got used to having the slider bar for charging, and no matter what level I charged the car to it drove the same way (except for less Regen available at a high state of charge, of course).

 

[PokerBroker]

I actually like the reduced power... In fact sometimes I drive in range mode even if I don't charge it fully in range mode

 

[ggr]

I actually like the reduced power... In fact sometimes I drive in range mode even if I don't charge it fully in range mode

Anyway, conversely, you can charge in range mode, and then switch back to normal mode or performance mode to actually drive it. By the time you are getting to the end of the normal mode charge you will be throttled anyway, and can switch back to range mode to get the extra 20 miles.

 

[dpeilow]

I always enjoy when someone driving a Model S says, "Oh, I didn't realize they were making a sports car now." Yep. Happens.

Weirdly it's been the other way round here in the UK.

Most people, at least up until now, when hearing I had / was getting a Tesla have said: " oh that 2 seater thing from Top Gear"

Oh you'd be surprised. When I went to the West Drayton opening party the young, wet behind the ears Tesla employee tried to direct me to the parking for everyone else until I told him to look at the badge...

 

[Chillout]

Here's my rendition of a more modern-day, aerodynamic front. Let's just hope the final car is not like this

 

[ecarfan]

Anyway, conversely, you can charge in range mode, and then switch back to normal mode or performance mode to actually drive it. By the time you are getting to the end of the normal mode charge you will be throttled anyway, and can switch back to range mode to get the extra 20 miles.

Thanks, interesting idea. Can you please describe the sequence of selections you make in the VDS interface to change from driving in "range" mode to driving in "normal" mode after having done a range charge? After 4 months of Roadster ownership I'm still unclear on how to do that.

What I was trying to say in my post just up thread was that, if the 3.0 battery would allow you to have a slider bar selection for charging, so that there were additional level of charge settings between the current "Standard" and "Range", then one could charge to say 90% to reduce stress on the battery and provide more range then a Standard charge but not have to drive in reduced power mode.

 

[ecarfan]

Here's my rendition of a more modern-day, aerodynamic front. Let's just hope the final car is not like this

Yes I've been wondering if one of the possible 3.0 front end improvements for better aerodynamics could be a smaller air intake area. Nice attempt at illustrating a possible approach to that.

 

[bonnie]

Thanks, interesting idea. Can you please describe the sequence of selections you make in the VDS interface to change from driving in "range" mode to driving in "normal" mode after having done a range charge? After 4 months of Roadster ownership I'm still unclear on how to do that.

I select RANGE to charge. To switch modes while driving (or anytime), simply press the battery icon and it will toggle through the different modes. With a few second delay, miles indicators will adjust to the mode you've selected.

 

[Roadrunner13]

Thanks, interesting idea. Can you please describe the sequence of selections you make in the VDS interface to change from driving in "range" mode to driving in "normal" mode after having done a range charge? After 4 months of Roadster ownership I'm still unclear on how to do that.

What I was trying to say in my post just up thread was that, if the 3.0 battery would allow you to have a slider bar selection for charging, so that there were additional level of charge settings between the current "Standard" and "Range", then one could charge to say 90% to reduce stress on the battery and provide more range then a Standard charge but not have to drive in reduced power mode.

On the main battery screen of the VDS, you can tap on the battery itself to change driving modes: standard, performance and range, no matter what the charging mode selection was originally. You can do this at any time during your trip. All the range counters change accordingly.

As for charging to say 78%, OVMS will allow you to configure that via SMS, not via the app... so far...of course doing it from the VDS would be easier for everyone!

Here's my rendition of a more modern-day, aerodynamic front. Let's just hope the final car is not like this

Wow, really nice rendering!

 

[PokerBroker]

Don't be ashamed I had to show ibcs that trick after he had the Roadster for like a year!

 

[bonnie]

Don't be ashamed I had to show ibcs that trick after he had the Roadster for like a year!

Yeah, I discovered it by mistake - was playing with the VDS menu while driving home and ideal/rated miles kept making leaps up/down. I finally realized I was inadvertently pressing the battery icon when meaning to press other menu items.

The owner's manual leaves *a bit* to your imagination. I had so many questions on the forum, thank god there were seasoned owners here to answer. Because the info def wasn't in any manual anywhere.