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So an incentive would a partnership arrangement between charging providers.
But that partnership arrangement doesn't exist at present, and until it does there is no incentive to "show me yours" if I won't "show you mine"
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But that partnership arrangement doesn't exist at present, and until it does there is no incentive to "show me yours" if I won't "show you mine"
raynewman
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NoNoNoNo we don't need contracts; just do it - like free WiFi. Bloody lawyers would have up knee deep in contracts.So an incentive would a partnership arrangement between charging providers.
But that partnership arrangement doesn't exist at present, and until it does there is no incentive to "show me yours" if I won't "show you mine"
Back when I was a pilot, the rule was: you can't take off til the weight of the paperwork exceeds the weight of the plane.
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We don't, but corporations do.
Personally I agree that making charge free and universal would accelerate EV adoption rapidly, which brings its own benefits and cost savings to society.
raynewman
Active Member
Regional SC's are rarely utilised beyond capacity. I was suggesting that if another branded EV were to use a SC then they pay Tesla for the privilege
The carrot being to get the other EV owners used to the wonderful infrastructure that tesla has made available, and provide them with some incentive to trade up to a Tesla.
The carrot being to get the other EV owners used to the wonderful infrastructure that tesla has made available, and provide them with some incentive to trade up to a Tesla.
It's not the same sort of thing. If Tesla set up a few charging points in a Westfield then if I was Tesla, sure I'd be ok with them being shared. It would probably be more practical to set up a J1772 charger there as well, rather than relying on others having an adaptor. But the cost of setting up a 8 bay Tesla supercharger is getting into the arena of 'real money'.
raynewman
Active Member
So is the cost of setting up a four CHAdeMO as is going into Brisbane - free (initially at least) for all.
Having said that - that wasn't my original point. I'm all for sharing J1772, Mennekes Type 2 and even power points! The 'expensive' ones; not so much.
Blue heaven
Fair Dinkum Tesla
This is my first post so not sure if I am doing this right.
We are planning on heading off in a couple of months to travel Australia for the next 2 years.
With have a 90D
We will be interviewing small to medium businesses that embrace sustainability within their daily practices & sharing their stories.
It helps that a lot of people have done great work listing all the options for charging.
Look forward to watching this space.
You can edit within 30 mins of posting !
But I like what you'e doing regardless !!!
Blue heaven
Fair Dinkum Tesla
Can we get updates on the trip? Are you heading clockwise?
It's going to be a messy trip as our aim is to stay out of the heat so no summer in the northern part of Australia. This will also mean we miss the wet season.
Our initial plan was to start at the center & then head south for summer heading back to Queensland & NT towards the winter. This will depend on what date we can get away. Hoping for mid October at the latest.
As we are planning on interviewing a number of businesses owners so we will probable zip zag around quite a bit.
I will keep you updated once we know the date we can hit the road.
Our initial plan was to start at the center & then head south for summer heading back to Queensland & NT towards the winter. This will depend on what date we can get away. Hoping for mid October at the latest.
As we are planning on interviewing a number of businesses owners so we will probable zip zag around quite a bit.
I will keep you updated once we know the date we can hit the road.
Murbs
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Time to bump this thread....
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There are quite of few people who are running out of time to get around Australia before the end of 2018...…
….. or are you planning on doing it in "Tesla time"?
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There are quite of few people who are running out of time to get around Australia before the end of 2018...…
….. or are you planning on doing it in "Tesla time"?
Techno-phile
S100D, P3D- in garage
We have at last completed our Round Oz trip, after covid stopped us 3 years ago at Kununurra.
A Summary of our Trip round Australia just completed.
We drove 17,050 kms in 54 days, doing the West coast and the Nullarbor quickly since we had done these several times before.
We stayed two nights in only 3 places (Eco Beach Resort Broome, Ashs Holiday Kurumba, Sanctuary Cove Hervey Bay for the Fraser Island trip).
But if possible it would be better to allow at least 100 days to enjoy all the destinations more.
The total energy used was 3,055 kWh at an average efficiency of 179 Wh/km.
The highest mileage in a day was 865kms, and we only arrived after dark on two days (824 kms to Esperance because of reconnecting the DC chargers that day and 370kms to Robe because of two many walks during the day).
Our lowest tank SOC on arrival was 10kms (to Esperance when we were balancing range and time and kangaroos at dusk), but when there was no time pressure we arrived with over 24 kms each day.
There was only rain in Atherton, Port Douglas, Robe, and the last day into Perth, but we had strong winds in South Australia and a severe wind on the Nullarbor, which caused an extra 3 hours driving and charging.
Out of all the cables in our froot, only the AEVA Kohns 32amp, our UMC with 10amp pigtail, our T2 to T2 cable, and our CCS2 adaptor for DC charging, were used.
We didn’t meet any other EVs at 3p sockets, so we didn’t have to use our 22kW splitter to each phase to charge three EVs at 7kW simultaneously.
The only safety gear used was the glass glue for two windscreen chips.
Charging after Clare Valley to Williams cost nearly as much as all of the rest of the charging put together (our car does have free supercharging for life).
All 24 Tesla superchargers worked perfectly and only one was full but only for 5 minutes. Most were totally unoccupied apart from a few other EVs trying to get their Tesla apps working.
8 out of 9 QESH DC charger in QLD worked, one was occupied and at another the other driver said he was full enough when we arrived.
All 21 3p or 10 amp sockets worked perfectly and were unoccupied.
All 18 Tesla Wall connectors worked perfectly and only one was briefly occupied.
All 3 T2 stations worked perfectly and were unoccupied
All 5 of the DC chargers from Whyalla to Lake Grace worked, but some required restarting a few times, and all were unoccupied.
We logged into Plugshare every time, and Plugshare did warn us that one site was full, and of course the car warned of the one Supercharger which was full.
Accommodation cost just over $10,000, but breakfasts were in our rooms or at the first charging point (if day charging), and grazing lunches of nuts and fruit in the car (since we were generally driving then).
We made up for this with some great dinners and managed some sightseeing early morning at sunrise, at driver swaps on the way, or late afternoon after check-in, averaging 10,000 steps per day.
The Five ABCs will become less important, since the WA EV DC network is being installed rapidly.
There are six new DC chargers on route 1 since our trip, and all of Eucla to Kununurra will be completed soon – the world’s longest network. Also RAA will cover the Eyre peninsula.
But the Northern Territory and Central Australia will still need the ABCs until the Federal network is installed, so here they are again.
1. Always Bring Cables (Especially for 3p sockets).
2. Always Be Charging (Only plan to stop at charging points, and plug in the car first).
3. Adjust Battery Consumption (It is always quicker overall to drive slower if only AC charging is available en route).
4. Always Browse Comments (Don’t rely on stations without checking previous user comments on Plugshare)
5. Always Be Cautious (Have alternative plans in case charging points are occupied or not working).
Teslas are brilliant long distance cars, so let them loose in this wonderful big multi-coloured land.
The gaps in the Teslascope map are where the car looses mobile connection.
A Summary of our Trip round Australia just completed.
We drove 17,050 kms in 54 days, doing the West coast and the Nullarbor quickly since we had done these several times before.
We stayed two nights in only 3 places (Eco Beach Resort Broome, Ashs Holiday Kurumba, Sanctuary Cove Hervey Bay for the Fraser Island trip).
But if possible it would be better to allow at least 100 days to enjoy all the destinations more.
The total energy used was 3,055 kWh at an average efficiency of 179 Wh/km.
The highest mileage in a day was 865kms, and we only arrived after dark on two days (824 kms to Esperance because of reconnecting the DC chargers that day and 370kms to Robe because of two many walks during the day).
Our lowest tank SOC on arrival was 10kms (to Esperance when we were balancing range and time and kangaroos at dusk), but when there was no time pressure we arrived with over 24 kms each day.
There was only rain in Atherton, Port Douglas, Robe, and the last day into Perth, but we had strong winds in South Australia and a severe wind on the Nullarbor, which caused an extra 3 hours driving and charging.
Out of all the cables in our froot, only the AEVA Kohns 32amp, our UMC with 10amp pigtail, our T2 to T2 cable, and our CCS2 adaptor for DC charging, were used.
We didn’t meet any other EVs at 3p sockets, so we didn’t have to use our 22kW splitter to each phase to charge three EVs at 7kW simultaneously.
The only safety gear used was the glass glue for two windscreen chips.
Charging after Clare Valley to Williams cost nearly as much as all of the rest of the charging put together (our car does have free supercharging for life).
All 24 Tesla superchargers worked perfectly and only one was full but only for 5 minutes. Most were totally unoccupied apart from a few other EVs trying to get their Tesla apps working.
8 out of 9 QESH DC charger in QLD worked, one was occupied and at another the other driver said he was full enough when we arrived.
All 21 3p or 10 amp sockets worked perfectly and were unoccupied.
All 18 Tesla Wall connectors worked perfectly and only one was briefly occupied.
All 3 T2 stations worked perfectly and were unoccupied
All 5 of the DC chargers from Whyalla to Lake Grace worked, but some required restarting a few times, and all were unoccupied.
We logged into Plugshare every time, and Plugshare did warn us that one site was full, and of course the car warned of the one Supercharger which was full.
Accommodation cost just over $10,000, but breakfasts were in our rooms or at the first charging point (if day charging), and grazing lunches of nuts and fruit in the car (since we were generally driving then).
We made up for this with some great dinners and managed some sightseeing early morning at sunrise, at driver swaps on the way, or late afternoon after check-in, averaging 10,000 steps per day.
The Five ABCs will become less important, since the WA EV DC network is being installed rapidly.
There are six new DC chargers on route 1 since our trip, and all of Eucla to Kununurra will be completed soon – the world’s longest network. Also RAA will cover the Eyre peninsula.
But the Northern Territory and Central Australia will still need the ABCs until the Federal network is installed, so here they are again.
1. Always Bring Cables (Especially for 3p sockets).
2. Always Be Charging (Only plan to stop at charging points, and plug in the car first).
3. Adjust Battery Consumption (It is always quicker overall to drive slower if only AC charging is available en route).
4. Always Browse Comments (Don’t rely on stations without checking previous user comments on Plugshare)
5. Always Be Cautious (Have alternative plans in case charging points are occupied or not working).
Teslas are brilliant long distance cars, so let them loose in this wonderful big multi-coloured land.
The gaps in the Teslascope map are where the car looses mobile connection.
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Quite a journey! Not something I would want to do but I can appreciate that it would be amazing for anyone that is into road trips.We have at last completed our Round Oz trip, after covid stopped us 3 years ago at Kununurra.
A Summary of our Trip round Australia just completed.
We drove 17,050 kms in 54 days, doing the West coast and the Nullarbor quickly since we had done these several times before.
We stayed two nights in only 3 places (Eco Beach Resort Broome, Ashs Holiday Kurumba, Sanctuary Cove Hervey Bay for the Fraser Island trip).
But if possible it would be better to allow at least 100 days to enjoy all the destinations more.
The total energy used was 3,055 kWh at an average efficiency of 179 Wh/km.
The highest mileage in a day was 865kms, and we only arrived after dark on two days (824 kms to Esperance because of reconnecting the DC chargers that day and 370kms to Robe because of two many walks during the day).
Our lowest tank SOC on arrival was 10kms (to Esperance when we were balancing range and time and kangaroos at dusk), but when there was no time pressure we arrived with over 24 kms each day.
There was only rain in Atherton, Port Douglas, Robe, and the last day into Perth, but we had strong winds in South Australia and a severe wind on the Nullarbor, which caused an extra 3 hours driving and charging.
Out of all the cables in our froot, only the AEVA Kohns 32amp, our UMC with 10amp pigtail, our T2 to T2 cable, and our CCS2 adaptor for DC charging, were used.
We didn’t meet any other EVs at 3p sockets, so we didn’t have to use our 22kW splitter to each phase to charge three EVs at 7kW simultaneously.
The only safety gear used was the glass glue for two windscreen chips.
Charging after Clare Valley to Williams cost nearly as much as all of the rest of the charging put together (our car does have free supercharging for life).
All 24 Tesla superchargers worked perfectly and only one was full but only for 5 minutes. Most were totally unoccupied apart from a few other EVs trying to get their Tesla apps working.
8 out of 9 QESH DC charger in QLD worked, one was occupied and at another the other driver said he was full enough when we arrived.
All 21 3p or 10 amp sockets worked perfectly and were unoccupied.
All 18 Tesla Wall connectors worked perfectly and only one was briefly occupied.
All 3 T2 stations worked perfectly and were unoccupied
All 5 of the DC chargers from Whyalla to Lake Grace worked, but some required restarting a few times, and all were unoccupied.
We logged into Plugshare every time, and Plugshare did warn us that one site was full, and of course the car warned of the one Supercharger which was full.
Accommodation cost just over $10,000, but breakfasts were in our rooms or at the first charging point (if day charging), and grazing lunches of nuts and fruit in the car (since we were generally driving then).
We made up for this with some great dinners and managed some sightseeing early morning at sunrise, at driver swaps on the way, or late afternoon after check-in, averaging 10,000 steps per day.
The Five ABCs will become less important, since the WA EV DC network is being installed rapidly.
There are six new DC chargers on route 1 since our trip, and all of Eucla to Kununurra will be completed soon – the world’s longest network. Also RAA will cover the Eyre peninsula.
But the Northern Territory and Central Australia will still need the ABCs until the Federal network is installed, so here they are again.
1. Always Bring Cables (Especially for 3p sockets).
2. Always Be Charging (Only plan to stop at charging points, and plug in the car first).
3. Adjust Battery Consumption (It is always quicker overall to drive slower if only AC charging is available en route).
4. Always Browse Comments (Don’t rely on stations without checking previous user comments on Plugshare)
5. Always Be Cautious (Have alternative plans in case charging points are occupied or not working).
Teslas are brilliant long distance cars, so let them loose in this wonderful big multi-coloured land.
The gaps in the Teslascope map are where the car looses mobile connection.
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Blue heaven
Fair Dinkum Tesla
28 pure EVs have now completed the Around Australia journey, 8 model S, 8 model 3, 5 model Y, 2 model X, plus 1 each of MG, Nissan, VW, Hyundai and Mercedes
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Around Australia trips in a pure EV
DriverStart/End pointCompletionVehicleNew Usable Capacity1. Glen GeorgePerthNov 2011MG converted Blue32 kWh2 Richard McNeallSydneySept 2016Tesla S Blue82 kWh3. Jeff JohnsonSydneyNov 2016Nissan Leaf Blue * 21 kWh4. Sylvia WilsonGladstoneJuly 2018Tesla S Blue69 kWh5. Steve & Keita BurrellPerthAug...
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