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Route for Florida to New England in 3 Days - trip observations

dfwatt

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This was actually our second long trip in one of the cars, but it's the first time we really planned the whole thing out and thought it out carefully, with one objective being to avoid the New Jersey/NYC and Washington corridors on Rt 95 (and their crazy traffic!) by jogging slightly West of 95. The earlier long trip down in January for my wife in our midnight silver Model 3 was pretty stressful, and exhausting as she tried to do it in two days which really meant ~800 miles a day and ~14 hours on the road with recharging (while taking care of our crazy doggie!).

On the way back this time we took our time, broke it into three legs, with the longest leg just barely 600 miles, and it was a lot more doable. We spaced the supercharger stops so that no leg was really significantly more than about 210 miles, and this meant we did not have to have any major bouts of range anxiety or white knuckling it, as the battery cranked into single digits.

If you're coming up from Southwest Florida or for that matter even from Southeast Florida, you might look at this route and of course you can reverse it if you're going down which is what were going to do in the fall.

Overall thoughts: enhanced autopilot was amazing and although it's far from perfect (explicated below) it is a game changer for long distance driving, where the most fatiguing aspects namely lane centering and speed matching are taken off your plate. My nephew Andrew did most of the driving in our other car and quickly fell in love with EAP. More on that later.

Here's our route with stops Including overnight accommodations – Mileages are in parenthesis at the end of each line, from starting point to the supercharger stop. We were disappointed with the Wyndham Super 8 in Santee South Carolina, but loved the Comfort Inn in Carlisle PA. Reasonable prices and a fantastically comfortable bed. We will definitely stay there on our reverse leg in the fall.

Route 75 from Port Charlotte to Ocala FL (185 mi)

Kingsland GA (140 mi)
MUST BE at 95+% when leaving Kingsland to get to Santee comfortably

Santee SC (208 mi)
(overnight at Super 8 Santee
9125 Old Hwy 6
Santee, SC 29142)

Fayetteville NC (150 mi)

Rocky Mount NC (92 mi)

Fredricksburg VA (173 mi)
(after this, nav should direct to RT 81 for next SC stop
in Carlisle but best route may depend on traffic around DC)

Carlisle PA (165 mi)
Comfort Inn PA Turnpike - I-81
77 Shady Lane,
Carlisle, PA, US, 17013
+1 (717) 706-3400

Moosic PA (130)

Danbury CT (140 mi)
MUST BE AT 90+% To get to Nashua comfortably

Nashua NH (177 mi)

We frequently came in at anywhere from just under 10 to ~ 20% battery. We did not have to do any meaningful speed restriction to boost range, given the intermediate length between stops, with no leg over 210 miles. Speeds were highly variable and so was our energy consumption. As traffic got heavier our watt-hrs per mile actually got better, but we probably varied between averaging ~290 Watt hours per mile on some slower legs to 350-380 Watt hours per mile when we were going 80 for the whole leg.

The cars are really amazingly comfortable for long distances in part because of the autopilot but also in part because of the generally fine ride and superb front seats. We have quieted down both cars with the RPM wind noise kit and extensive dynamatting. Average road noise at 70 is only about 64 DB and only 66 Db at 80 which is a pretty serious reduction.

Further thoughts on autopilot and supercharging:

1) the system is too paranoid some of the time and not paranoid enough at other times. One consistently annoying feature is that when you're trying to change lanes, the system needs an enormous distance between you and the cars in front or in back and I understand the ~ 2 seconds rule, but it seems like it sometimes needs a lot more than that. It was really annoying to have the car brake under the lane change signal, when there seemed to be plenty of room. That was often the most common reason I would choose to break out of AP - to avoid a tedious wait for the car to find more than enough space to get over.

It's not paranoid enough on the other hand when you're passing trucks in an adjoining lane and the truck is hugging the lane boundary, and 1.5 feet or so away from you. I wish you would have the option to change its lane centering heuristics to move a bit away from large trucks. There were a few episodes of phantom regen braking when there was nothing there particularly it seems when you're going around the turn and the system can clearly distinguish who's in your lane as opposed to lose in an adjacent lane. There was no episode however of phantom friction braking, which could have been more dangerous and for sure more disconcerting.

2) But these are small quibbles in an otherwise superb system. For sure it's a total game changer in relationship to trips and long distance driving. Can't imagine taking another long trip without EAP.

3) The new upgraded 150 kWh charging rate does make a discernible difference on trips, particularly until about the 50% mark on your battery, when the charge taper begins. It charges up to that point really quickly. We rarely had to share A/B charging stalls, but there were still times when the charging rate seemed unduly low – and it certainly wasn't from cold batteries as destinations were always set to the next supercharger. I know this has been speculated about in various threads, but I wonder if some of the units need service – particularly in terms of possible sub optimal connections between the car and the charging cable. I do wish that Tesla would make sure that there was a Starbucks or Dunkin' Donuts nearby every supercharger. In general there is some kind of place to get a snack but in some cases he had to walk quite a difference.

Best cars ever. The more time we spend with them, the clearer that becomes. Although waiting for your car to finish supercharging is sometimes a bit inconvenient, and we estimate that we could have comfortably covered an additional 100 – 150 miles a day if not using SC if we took out our 2 to 3 supercharger stops, we would not trade our Tesla Model 3s for any ICE vehicle - price no object. We think they are safer highway cars than anything else you can buy.

Pictures to follow . . .
 
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-DA3

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I'm doing this same trip in the fall! NH to Ocala! Thank you! DM me the dynomat process or share a link. appreciate it
 

hcdavis3

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This was actually our second long trip in one of the cars, but it's the first time we really planned the whole thing out and thought it out carefully, with one objective being to avoid the New Jersey/NYC and Washington corridors on Rt 95 (and their crazy traffic!) by jogging slightly West of 95. The earlier long trip down in January for my wife in our midnight silver Model 3 was pretty stressful, and exhausting as she tried to do it in two days which really meant ~800 miles a day and ~14 hours on the road with recharging (while taking care of our crazy doggie!).

On the way back this time we took our time, broke it into three legs, with the longest leg just barely 600 miles, and it was a lot more doable. We spaced the supercharger stops so that no leg was really significantly more than about 210 miles, and this meant we did not have to have any major bouts of range anxiety or white knuckling it, as the battery cranked into single digits.

If you're coming up from Southwest Florida or for that matter even from Southeast Florida, you might look at this route and of course you can reverse it if you're going down which is what were going to do in the fall.

Overall thoughts: enhanced autopilot was amazing and although it's far from perfect (explicated below) it is a game changer for long distance driving, where the most fatiguing aspects namely lane centering and speed matching are taken off your plate. My nephew Andrew did most of the driving in our other car and quickly fell in love with EAP. More on that later.

Here's our route with stops Including overnight accommodations – Mileages are in parenthesis at the end of each line, from starting point to the supercharger stop. We were disappointed with the Wyndham Super 8 in Santee South Carolina, but loved the Comfort Inn in Carlisle PA. Reasonable prices and a fantastically comfortable bed. We will definitely stay there on our reverse leg in the fall.

Route 75 from Port Charlotte to Ocala FL (185 mi)

Kingsland GA (140 mi)
MUST BE at 95+% when leaving Kingsland to get to Santee comfortably

Santee SC (208 mi)
(overnight at Super 8 Santee
9125 Old Hwy 6
Santee, SC 29142)

Fayetteville NC (150 mi)

Rocky Mount NC (92 mi)

Fredricksburg VA (173 mi)
(after this, nav should direct to RT 81 for next SC stop
in Carlisle but best route may depend on traffic around DC)

Carlisle PA (165 mi)
Comfort Inn PA Turnpike - I-81
77 Shady Lane,
Carlisle, PA, US, 17013
+1 (717) 706-3400

Moosic PA (130)

Danbury CT (140 mi)
MUST BE AT 90+% To get to Nashua comfortably

Nashua NH (177 mi)

We frequently came in at anywhere from just under 10 to ~ 20% battery. We did not have to do any meaningful speed restriction to boost range, given the intermediate length between stops, with no leg over 210 miles. Speeds were highly variable and so was our energy consumption. As traffic got heavier our watt-hrs per mile actually got better, but we probably varied between averaging ~290 Watt hours per mile on some slower legs to 350-380 Watt hours per mile when we were going 80 for the whole leg.

The cars are really amazingly comfortable for long distances in part because of the autopilot but also in part because of the generally fine ride and superb front seats. We have quieted down both cars with the RPM wind noise kit and extensive dynamatting. Average road noise at 70 is only about 64 DB and only 66 Db at 80 which is a pretty serious reduction.

Further thoughts on autopilot and supercharging:

1) the system is too paranoid some of the time and not paranoid enough at other times. One consistently annoying feature is that when you're trying to change lanes, the system needs an enormous distance between you and the cars in front or in back and I understand the ~ 2 seconds rule, but it seems like it sometimes needs a lot more than that. It was really annoying to have the car brake under the lane change signal, when there seemed to be plenty of room. That was often the most common reason I would choose to break out of AP - to avoid a tedious wait for the car to find more than enough space to get over.

It's not paranoid enough on the other hand when you're passing trucks in an adjoining lane and the truck is hugging the lane boundary, and 1.5 feet or so away from you. I wish you would have the option to change its lane centering heuristics to move a bit away from large trucks. There were a few episodes of phantom regen braking when there was nothing there particularly it seems when you're going around the turn and the system can clearly distinguish who's in your lane as opposed to lose in an adjacent lane. There was no episode however of phantom friction braking, which could have been more dangerous and for sure more disconcerting.

2) But these are small quibbles in an otherwise superb system. For sure it's a total game changer in relationship to trips and long distance driving. Can't imagine taking another long trip without EAP.

3) The new upgraded 150 kWh charging rate does make a discernible difference on trips, particularly until about the 50% mark on your battery, when the charge taper begins. It charges up to that point really quickly. We rarely had to share A/B charging stalls, but there were still times when the charging rate seemed unduly low – and it certainly wasn't from cold batteries as destinations were always set to the next supercharger. I know this has been speculated about in various threads, but I wonder if some of the units need service – particularly in terms of possible sub optimal connections between the car and the charging cable. I do wish that Tesla would make sure that there was a Starbucks or Dunkin' Donuts nearby every supercharger. In general there is some kind of place to get a snack but in some cases he had to walk quite a difference.

Best cars ever. The more time we spend with them, the clearer that becomes. Although waiting for your car to finish supercharging is sometimes a bit inconvenient, and we estimate that we could have comfortably covered an additional 100 – 150 miles a day if not using SC if we took out our 2 to 3 supercharger stops, we would not trade our Tesla Model 3s for any ICE vehicle - price no object. We think they are safer highway cars than anything else you can buy.

Pictures to follow . . .
Sounds like a very comfortable trip Doug. I’ve yet to go on even a 100 mile trip. We may go from Wareham to Brattleboro this summer. I was thinking the only stops I would need would be the new SC in Hudson MA on the way up, and the SC in Brattleboro. I haven’t plugged my trip into ABRP, but I may be able to get home with no stops. Welcome back.
 
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ItsNotAboutTheMoney

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This is good feed back! We're heading to PEI in a few weeks and the charging is limited (we may need to hit some LV2 on the way back)

Your timing might be just be off!

Salisbury, NB and Baileyville, ME are under construction. Hardware delaying Salisbury, NB it, but it _could_ be open by the time you will be returning.
Supercharger - Salisbury, NB
Supercharger - Baileyville, ME

Need to get to Aulac, NB on your return.

Then fastest route back might be via Lincoln, NB.
Lincoln, NB to Brewer, ME is, according to Supercharge.info/OSM: 211.4 mi 03:13:42, taking I-95.

But if you route south from Lincoln, NB on NB-640, and cross into the USA around Calais, ME,. passing by the Baileyville, ME site at the Iriving, taking route 9 to Brewer, ME Supercharge.info/OSM says:
94.1 mi 01:45:15
87.6 mi 01:32:16
=
181.7 mi 03:17:31
Shorter and greater efficiency due to lower speed, and only a few more minutes of driving time, so should be faster overall and could avoid Level 2s on your return trip, as long as you can get a slow charge before you leave.
 

mongo

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1) the system is too paranoid some of the time and not paranoid enough at other times. One consistently annoying feature is that when you're trying to change lanes, the system needs an enormous distance between you and the cars in front or in back and I understand the ~ 2 seconds rule, but it seems like it sometimes needs a lot more than that. It was really annoying to have the car brake under the lane change signal, when there seemed to be plenty of room. That was often the most common reason I would choose to break out of AP - to avoid a tedious wait for the car to find more than enough space to get over.

Did you have lane change set to Mad Max mode ?
(I'm not sure if following distance also has an impact)
 

powaking

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Feb 1, 2018
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Massachusetts
We did a similar trip last year PRE-Tesla though from Fall River, MA to Orlando, FL. Now that we have the S I'm so antsy to get on the road and do a massive road trip. This is some good feedback, can't wait for the pics.
 
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