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Rumor: Hybrid Power Train

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by kehlKroos, Dec 1, 2016.

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  1. PaulusdB

    PaulusdB Mayor Gnomus Vintage Limb

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    alternators ! :D
     
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  2. Topher

    Topher Energy Curmudgeon

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    He said simpler to produce. Not sure where the confusion is.

    Thank you kindly.
     
  3. Evbwcaer

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    One AC and one DC motor.
     
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  4. Trips

    Trips "Boring bonehead questions are not cool. Next?"

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    Nice Trips,

    Maybe this is what the OP was referencing? Maybe this is a way to increase efficiency and therefore decrease needed battery size and thus weight.
     
  6. Bangor Bob

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    Seriously though, maybe a motor which can switch between AC Induction and Switched Reluctance operating modes?

    I think I remember reading Remy was working on a EV application Switched Reluctance motor at one point, before they got folded back into GM.
     
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    I'm feeling a lot dumber from trying to read that. I'm thinking something simpler like AC induction in the back and Flintstones car power up front. Elon did say he wanted to make it simpler.

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    What would be the point of this? Aren't EV motors already really simple, long-lasting, and >90% efficiency?
     
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    Greater than 90% at peak, yes. The point of this would be to shave off some of those remaining losses, and maybe get 95% efficient instead.

    There's not as much opportunity here as in other places, but if the cost differential isn't excessive, every little bit helps...
     
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    Flux-capacitor? Muon/anti-muon reactor perhaps?
     
  11. JeffK

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    I love how we still have zero confirmation on this.

    There is a small rumor that Tesla signed a permanent magnet deal with a chinese supplier...
     
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    Obviously, it will be an EM drive.
    Robin
     
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    #33 Ciaopec, Dec 7, 2016
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    Wait! Rumors come in sizes now?:D Are those started before or after 10am?
     
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    Haha, this one is small in terms of the news coverage. Only a handful of sites reporting it and most are Chinese.

    I take those with a grain of salt (which is also small)
     
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    :)
     
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    For those that consider the above TLDR, in essence, the patent describes a motor that can hibernate for various periods, including fractions of a second, when torque is not necessary, which also causes the inverter to draw nothing during those moments. Several references in here to increasing efficiency and range in electric vehicles via this technology. The methods that enable this without passive magnetic forces causing resistance require modern microprocessor control, and are quite complex, hence the patent.
     
  17. JeffK

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    Keep in mind this patent was filed shortly after the introduction of dual motors so there's nothing new here.
     
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    They are started After Eight ;)
     
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    This guy trolled the Short-Term TSLA Price Movements thread last week with unsubstantiated speculation. Check out his past postings on his profile page.
     

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