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Discussion in 'Model S: Driving Dynamics' started by Bugeater, Aug 30, 2014.

  1. Bugeater

    Bugeater Member

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    So when I picked up my Model S from the service center today the service advisor told me that there ARE 4WD Model Ss currently in the wild! He said that within a few months they will be available for sale.
     
  2. Johan

    Johan Took a TSLA bear test. Came back negative.

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    Which SC was this? Thnx for posting interesting info.
     
  3. ROCDOC

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    Bugeater, that would be great news. Frustrating to say the least, actually, since I would have easily held off my order to get this function. However, advances like this will always happen and you can never time it just right. Just like the stock market. Still have a degree of suspicion regarding the reliability of this rumor, but that is my nature.
     
  4. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

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    My spidey sense tells me that he actually said something more like this:
    He probably didn't say the second sentence except to himself.
     
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    dirkhh Middle-aged Member

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    Completely agree with brianman. There would be no excuse for Tesla distracting themselves with an AWD Model S right now. But there are indeed AWD Model S used to test for Model X. I also heard that some of them have eight boxes on the roof to simulate the higher eight of the Model X.
     
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    AmpedRealtor Active Member

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    No Model S AWD before Model X.
     
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    Would be great to help 0-60 time. Other than that, I wouldn't have much use for it here in Nor Cal, maybe in the mountains for skiing. Would love it for street launches.
     
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    well, months ago, or almost a year now, I saw a picture of a 2 door coupe Model S and was told that it was a real car, the pic was from a Tesla Tech on a laptop!
     
  9. AlMc

    AlMc 'Senior Moments' member

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    I have gone back and forth on this one. I believe we will see an option for an AWD S before the X. Since they are 'negative selling' the X right now and they can probably command a nice margin of the AWD's second motor I have come around to the idea that it will be available before the X. I have been wrong MANY times before...just opinion.
     
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    If the front motor is geared a lot lower, an AWD model S might be ~5% more efficient in freeway driving due to the reduced motor losses, which would likely outweigh the increased losses due to the extra weight at all speeds.

    Some of the videos suggest Tesla was counting on this edge to keep similar range to the Model S in the larger Model X.
    Walter
     
  11. Bugeater

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    Your Spidey Sense might be right but he explicitly said they will be available for sale this year.

    Palo Alto SC.
     
  12. AnOutsider

    AnOutsider S532 # XS27

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    I'll just note that I've heard similar to the OP.
     
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    AlMc 'Senior Moments' member

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    Nice hedge! What you are saying is that the announcement is imminent?:biggrin:
     
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    I've not heard lf "8 boxes", but this something along these lines?

    tr1.jpg tr2.jpg tr3.jpg
     
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    dirkhh Middle-aged Member

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    Darn auto correct.
    That was supposed to read weightboxes. Exactly what you show in your pictures.
     
  16. SwedishAdvocate

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    Why not?

    This opinion directly contradicts The mission of Tesla as outlined by Elon:

    I have a hard time imagining a Model X being more sustainable than a 4WD Model S.
     
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    dirkhh Middle-aged Member

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    I see your point.
    But the bigger goal is Model 3 regarding true affordability. So to me this is about opportunity cost and distraction. Adding an AWD Model S doesn't solve any problems for Tesla and (given they are supply constraint) doesn't really add to cash flow. But it adds risk to delay a Model 3 launch. So I stick to my statement. There would be no excuse to do so.
     
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    mknox Well-Known Member

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    This actually makes the most sense. They're already selling RWD Model S as fast as they can make them, so why divert resources to a problem that doesn't yet exist?
     
  19. ElSupreme

    ElSupreme Model S 03182

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    I don't think they would be 'diverting' any reasoruces. I would think the Model X AWD system would be exactly the same as the Model S. Same platform and all. Not to mention they are supposedly already using Model Ss as AWD mules, the work is most likely already done.
     
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    Actually, it would solve one problem: any unforeseen AWD problems. Tesla should limit the number of potential (new) problems with X. The falcon wing doors and AWD are two very large engineering feats (more with the falcon wing doors than AWD), and it would be best to have S introduce AWD and handle any unforeseen problems because it will not have as large of a potential negative effect on the S than X. If there is a problem with AWD, better to deal with it on the product that has been in production for over two years than X. It could hurt the overall perception of X if AWD has some minor issue.
     

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