growler23
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A lot of good news regarding equipment headed to Ukraine - some of it even timely for the upcoming retirement of General Mud for this year.
I've been just absorbing the MSM headlines of late, and trying to track the trends there. I feel like there has been a lot of highlighting of Ukrainian losses, and a lot of concern expressed about escalation / US involvement, and then a recent, very much front and center statement by a (likely) presidential candidate that the US should not be involved at all. That all points in the same general direction.
It tends to make me think that after 6 months at the start of the war where they went AWOL, the Russian disinformation apparatus is in full swing again. Back to their 2016 form. They are playing catch-up to a solid Ukrainian PR operation that somehow seemed ready-to-go on Invasion Day 1, and has continued to spread their stories fairly effectively.
As has been noted before, Ukraine will keep fighting ; they have little to no weapons production of their own, but they will take whatever the West sends them and use it fight to just about the last man/woman. Russia seems to know this and are using their various well-honed media connections and political connections on the American right to convince the West to just "let it go already". Some minds in Russia have likely understood that is their only positive endgame now. They are getting more traction in the US sphere, but not a lot more it seems to me. There was one poll that showed a slight "softening" of US public support for Ukraine assistance - then DAYS of coverage about that one poll, making it seem like inevitable truth written in the sky in giant letters, when in fact, it was a single poll of limited use and duration (and the "softening" was not that much IIRC). Quite interesting to watch that roll out.
I still enjoy and greatly appreciate the contributions to this thread. I admit that I am becoming somewhat worried about the "stalemate" - yes, hopefully Ukraine is absorbing all Russia can throw at it right now with very little loss of territory, but while we are convinced they are training a bunch of soldiers for a counteroffensive ... we don't (and won't) know exactly how many, or where, or when the counterpunch will come. Holding out faith that this will happen and have the blindingly fast effectiveness of the Kharkiv and Kherson liberations.
Have not heard about international commitments for this, but would love to hear the industrialized West commit to rebuilding Ukraine's electric infrastructure in the most forward looking, distributed (and therefore resilient to future attacks), "green" way now possible. That day will come, hopefully soon and the payoff for the world would be more than worth it.
I don't have much more to add, just wanted to "re-register" as an interested lurker and say I routinely look forward to the information gathering here. 'Preesh, y'all.
I've been just absorbing the MSM headlines of late, and trying to track the trends there. I feel like there has been a lot of highlighting of Ukrainian losses, and a lot of concern expressed about escalation / US involvement, and then a recent, very much front and center statement by a (likely) presidential candidate that the US should not be involved at all. That all points in the same general direction.
It tends to make me think that after 6 months at the start of the war where they went AWOL, the Russian disinformation apparatus is in full swing again. Back to their 2016 form. They are playing catch-up to a solid Ukrainian PR operation that somehow seemed ready-to-go on Invasion Day 1, and has continued to spread their stories fairly effectively.
As has been noted before, Ukraine will keep fighting ; they have little to no weapons production of their own, but they will take whatever the West sends them and use it fight to just about the last man/woman. Russia seems to know this and are using their various well-honed media connections and political connections on the American right to convince the West to just "let it go already". Some minds in Russia have likely understood that is their only positive endgame now. They are getting more traction in the US sphere, but not a lot more it seems to me. There was one poll that showed a slight "softening" of US public support for Ukraine assistance - then DAYS of coverage about that one poll, making it seem like inevitable truth written in the sky in giant letters, when in fact, it was a single poll of limited use and duration (and the "softening" was not that much IIRC). Quite interesting to watch that roll out.
I still enjoy and greatly appreciate the contributions to this thread. I admit that I am becoming somewhat worried about the "stalemate" - yes, hopefully Ukraine is absorbing all Russia can throw at it right now with very little loss of territory, but while we are convinced they are training a bunch of soldiers for a counteroffensive ... we don't (and won't) know exactly how many, or where, or when the counterpunch will come. Holding out faith that this will happen and have the blindingly fast effectiveness of the Kharkiv and Kherson liberations.
Have not heard about international commitments for this, but would love to hear the industrialized West commit to rebuilding Ukraine's electric infrastructure in the most forward looking, distributed (and therefore resilient to future attacks), "green" way now possible. That day will come, hopefully soon and the payoff for the world would be more than worth it.
I don't have much more to add, just wanted to "re-register" as an interested lurker and say I routinely look forward to the information gathering here. 'Preesh, y'all.