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The Political class in America has clearly failed its constituents.

The Political class in Europe has completely justified their constituents belief in them.

Interdependence with Russia has created a peaceful and stable Europe.

Angela Merkle has no regrets making Germany dependent on Russian energy.

Europe doesn't even need the USA anymore.
 
I know some here will have seen this already, but I think it is valuable enough to post for those who have not. TL;DR - can’t just send the weapons being asked for, the logistics for parts and supplies and all that entails has to be cared for as well. Undoubtedly this is factoring into what is being sent.

 
sanctions are adversely affecting Russia




and this is an example of the very long journey that Russia has taken to enfeeble the West


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It's sounding more dire by the week. I would guess Ukraine is partitioned off and, if lucky, what remains attempts to expedite a NATO membership. Germany is divided on Ukraine joining the EU.
Yes. It is a dire situation... But retired Lieutenant General Mark Hartling doesn't share your view. From March 2011 to November 2012, he served as the Commanding General of United States Army Europe and the Seventh Army.

He explains here:


...which was already posted in this thread on the previous page here:

 
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I know some here will have seen this already, but I think it is valuable enough to post for those who have not. TL;DR - can’t just send the weapons being asked for, the logistics for parts and supplies and all that entails has to be cared for as well. Undoubtedly this is factoring into what is being sent.


I posted the thread from the Threadreader app a few hours back. The whole thing is a good read.

Trent Telenko explains why the US has so much less artillery than the Russians and why the Ukrainians don't need vast numbers of western artillery either:
Thread by @TrentTelenko on Thread Reader App

In short US made up for a lack of quantity with vastly better quality. He shows a Russian made Smerch attack from Syria and the rockets are landing all over the landscape. The US MRLS on the other hand showed a 90% accuracy rate in Iraq. 90% of rockets land within 5m of the intended target.

US MRLS also reload vastly faster than Russian MRLS. It takes 4 hours to reload a Smerch and as little as 5 minutes to reload a US MRLS. An average rate of fire for a US system is 4 volleys an hour, the Russians can only manage one volley per 4 hours. 16x the rate of fire. The Russian rocket artillery needs to fire a lot of rockets with the hope that one finds the target, each US made rocket has a 90% chance of hitting the target so a lot fewer needed to do the job.

He runs the numbers are even at a relatively low rate of fire the Ukrainians are killing hundreds of Russian artillery per day.

That's why US divisions have so few artillery pieces. Only a few pieces can do tremendous work.

Elsewhere Telenko has talked about the US approach to combat and logistics. The Russians for most of history have always had more bodies to throw into the cauldron. They don't any more, but their commanders are used to an approach that is very labor intensive because they always had a lot of people.

The US has always been short handed. They have always been trying to do more militarily with a force that was usually manpower limited. Even in WW II the US military peaked had 16 million serve and the USSR had 35 million, and the US fought three major powers in 4 theaters. The Russians primarily fought one opponent in one theater.

So the US has come up with ways to get the most work out of the fewest people possible. Logistics is a science the US has excelled at for 80 years. Today there are vast labor saving techniques to get everything needed from the States to the battlefield with as few people as possible making machines do as much work as possible. Lots of cranes and lots of fork lifts with supplies all designed for the tools needed to move them.

Making weapons more accurate also cuts down on supplies needed. You don't need a huge supply train for artillery if your artillery does the job in one shot most of the time.

The Ukrainians do need more than they have and we need to make sure they know how to use the new gear, but they don't need the vast quantities of artillery they claim they need. Maybe 40-50 MRLS and maybe double the 155mm delivered so far and they will probably be doing more damage than all their old Russian artillery did. Then it's a matter of keeping the supply chain for ammunition running.

Telenko has also talked about the proximity rounds available for the 155mm. They can be set to explode at a set distance from the ground. That turns them into downward firing shotgun shells. Over dug into troops, that will pepper them with scads of shrapnel. It's a great de-entrenching tool. Salt the enemy entrenchments with those shells, then roll on in. There will be a few who aren't wounded, but not many.

I've been seeing Ukrainians drone footage the last week of super accurate artillery strikes on Russian positions with a lot of equipment. It's probably NATO 155mm in action. They are first spotting Russian vehicles parked, sometimes partially under cover, then targeting one round per vehicle. The results are pretty spectacular, especially when they hit an ammo truck or a Russian MRLS that is loaded. Apparently the Ukrainians made one of these strikes on a Wagner Group facility last week.

In one case the drone is taken out mid-strike. You can see the Russian SAM launch and the missile take out the drone. Probably a $10,000 missile to take out a $500 drone. The second part of the video is from a second drone vectored over the strike after the first one was killed.

There is still a lot of Russian artillery to take out. The Ukrainians not having enough artillery right now is a problem, but one that is being solved.
 
I posted the thread from the Threadreader app a few hours back. The whole thing is a good read.

Trent Telenko explains why the US has so much less artillery than the Russians and why the Ukrainians don't need vast numbers of western artillery either:
Thread by @TrentTelenko on Thread Reader App

In short US made up for a lack of quantity with vastly better quality. He shows a Russian made Smerch attack from Syria and the rockets are landing all over the landscape. The US MRLS on the other hand showed a 90% accuracy rate in Iraq. 90% of rockets land within 5m of the intended target.

US MRLS also reload vastly faster than Russian MRLS. It takes 4 hours to reload a Smerch and as little as 5 minutes to reload a US MRLS. An average rate of fire for a US system is 4 volleys an hour, the Russians can only manage one volley per 4 hours. 16x the rate of fire. The Russian rocket artillery needs to fire a lot of rockets with the hope that one finds the target, each US made rocket has a 90% chance of hitting the target so a lot fewer needed to do the job.

He runs the numbers are even at a relatively low rate of fire the Ukrainians are killing hundreds of Russian artillery per day.

That's why US divisions have so few artillery pieces. Only a few pieces can do tremendous work.

Elsewhere Telenko has talked about the US approach to combat and logistics. The Russians for most of history have always had more bodies to throw into the cauldron. They don't any more, but their commanders are used to an approach that is very labor intensive because they always had a lot of people.

The US has always been short handed. They have always been trying to do more militarily with a force that was usually manpower limited. Even in WW II the US military peaked had 16 million serve and the USSR had 35 million, and the US fought three major powers in 4 theaters. The Russians primarily fought one opponent in one theater.

So the US has come up with ways to get the most work out of the fewest people possible. Logistics is a science the US has excelled at for 80 years. Today there are vast labor saving techniques to get everything needed from the States to the battlefield with as few people as possible making machines do as much work as possible. Lots of cranes and lots of fork lifts with supplies all designed for the tools needed to move them.

Making weapons more accurate also cuts down on supplies needed. You don't need a huge supply train for artillery if your artillery does the job in one shot most of the time.

The Ukrainians do need more than they have and we need to make sure they know how to use the new gear, but they don't need the vast quantities of artillery they claim they need. Maybe 40-50 MRLS and maybe double the 155mm delivered so far and they will probably be doing more damage than all their old Russian artillery did. Then it's a matter of keeping the supply chain for ammunition running.

Telenko has also talked about the proximity rounds available for the 155mm. They can be set to explode at a set distance from the ground. That turns them into downward firing shotgun shells. Over dug into troops, that will pepper them with scads of shrapnel. It's a great de-entrenching tool. Salt the enemy entrenchments with those shells, then roll on in. There will be a few who aren't wounded, but not many.

I've been seeing Ukrainians drone footage the last week of super accurate artillery strikes on Russian positions with a lot of equipment. It's probably NATO 155mm in action. They are first spotting Russian vehicles parked, sometimes partially under cover, then targeting one round per vehicle. The results are pretty spectacular, especially when they hit an ammo truck or a Russian MRLS that is loaded. Apparently the Ukrainians made one of these strikes on a Wagner Group facility last week.

In one case the drone is taken out mid-strike. You can see the Russian SAM launch and the missile take out the drone. Probably a $10,000 missile to take out a $500 drone. The second part of the video is from a second drone vectored over the strike after the first one was killed.

There is still a lot of Russian artillery to take out. The Ukrainians not having enough artillery right now is a problem, but one that is being solved.

But as others have said, a war machine with sustained power has logistics, maintenance, and trained staff in many areas - much more than lobbing higher quality ordinance. Ukraine needs more of everything over the long haul.
 
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Ukrainian servicemen occupying a stronghold near Zvioroferma asked the Russian unit command via radio to cease fire and provide a corridor for exit.

Around 10 p.m., AFU servicemen with white flags began moving towards Russian positions.

At that moment, a Ukrainian nationalist barrier unit arrived at the stronghold in armored vehicles and opened crossfire in the back on the servicemen of the 54th Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

As a result of this shooting, 32 Ukrainian servicemen were fatally wounded and killed.

This incident, as well as many others like it, clearly demonstrates that amid growing military failures and demoralization of Ukrainian troops, the Kiev nationalist regime is trying to stop the retreat and surrender of its units by punitive actions of barrier squads.
 
Ukrainian servicemen occupying a stronghold near Zvioroferma asked the Russian unit command via radio to cease fire and provide a corridor for exit.

Around 10 p.m., AFU servicemen with white flags began moving towards Russian positions.

At that moment, a Ukrainian nationalist barrier unit arrived at the stronghold in armored vehicles and opened crossfire in the back on the servicemen of the 54th Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

As a result of this shooting, 32 Ukrainian servicemen were fatally wounded and killed.

This incident, as well as many others like it, clearly demonstrates that amid growing military failures and demoralization of Ukrainian troops, the Kiev nationalist regime is trying to stop the retreat and surrender of its units by punitive actions of barrier squads.
Let me fix that for you:

In case that the beginning is even true, what 99.99% happened was that the russians shot the Ukrainian soldiers while pretending to accept their surrender. This is extremely typical of soviet/russian war crimes now and in the past. Except if you provide INDEPENDENT verification of your article, please stop trolling for russians. So far they are the ones behind the vast majority of war crimes in this war and this exact behavior has been documented on the russian side, using Chechen security detachments behind their own troops. Shooting the laggards "pour encourager les autres". Standard russian tactic at Stalingrad and now in Ukraine. So put up or shut up.
 
Let me fix that for you:

In case that the beginning is even true, what 99.99% happened was that the russians shot the Ukrainian soldiers while pretending to accept their surrender. This is extremely typical of soviet/russian war crimes now and in the past. Except if you provide INDEPENDENT verification of your article, please stop trolling for russians. So far they are the ones behind the vast majority of war crimes in this war and this exact behavior has been documented on the russian side, using Chechen security detachments behind their own troops. Shooting the laggards "pour encourager les autres". Standard russian tactic at Stalingrad and now in Ukraine. So put up or shut up.
Given as per the widely publicized "trial" of sentencing POWs to death, the multiple false corridor setups in Mariupol, what you say sounds exactly like what the Russians will do.
 
sanctions are adversely affecting Russia

Yes, life is getting tougher. The report of low Botox inventories was especially alarming. Another week and Putin will call it all off...

BTW, the Moscow McDonald's featured in in that story just reopened and the new owner plans to open all stores in Russia by summer's end. A CNN reporter on the scene also mentioned store shelves are full now and inflation had come back down. Heck, maybe Biden should invade someone!

Yes, countries at war typically import (and borrow) more while exporting less. But Russia can't borrow, thus requires exports to fund truly essential imports. And it's not like Russia is exporting critical resources needed to fight. They're exporting excess oil and gas they'd otherwise have to shut in. It's found money.

A true oil/gas embargo would be a huge blow to Russia's war effort, but the current shell game hurts us more than them.

I posted those two articles to show that Russia is not really making bank on selling oil right now Their economy has taken many hits and the war is a massive drain on their treasury.
Their treasury is growing, not draining, due to a soaring trade surplus.

What they are making from oil is just barely paying for the war leaving virtually nothing to cover the things the oil revenue usually covers.
Oil is paying for the war instead of Botox and Louis Vuitton handbags. It's a sacrifice Putin is willing to make.

I do agree that we need to be doing more to make Russian oil unnecessary. Though I disagree about rationing. The economies in the west are already shaky and rationing would make it much worse.
Rationing would cut Europe's trade deficit. It would also help reign in inflation in both Europe and the US. It would be unpopular, of course.

I also made the point that unless they wanted to let a dictator get away with invading their neighbor for no reason, they should either suck it up or buy electric.
EVs are a great long-term strategy, but can't move the Russia/Ukraine needle.

I hadn't looked in a while, but Teslas have gone up quite a bit in the last 6 months.
Chevy now sells the "25k EV" we've heard about all these years.
 
Ukrainian servicemen occupying a stronghold near Zvioroferma asked the Russian unit command via radio to cease fire and provide a corridor for exit.

Around 10 p.m., AFU servicemen with white flags began moving towards Russian positions.

At that moment, a Ukrainian nationalist barrier unit arrived at the stronghold in armored vehicles and opened crossfire in the back on the servicemen of the 54th Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

As a result of this shooting, 32 Ukrainian servicemen were fatally wounded and killed.

This incident, as well as many others like it, clearly demonstrates that amid growing military failures and demoralization of Ukrainian troops, the Kiev nationalist regime is trying to stop the retreat and surrender of its units by punitive actions of barrier squads.

You didn't post the link where you read this. I found it on southfront.
Nationalist Units Shot Ukrainian Servicemen Who Tried To Surrender In Novomikhailovka - Russian MoD

Southfront is a Russian astro-turf news organization
SouthFront - Wikipedia

What made me suspicious is the reference to Ukrainian troops as "nationalist". The Russians have been casting Ukraine as a part of Russia that has tried to break away and they are just bringing them back into the fold like they did with Chechnya. So Ukrainian troops become "nationalists" because they are really Russians who are fighting Moscow in the Russian narrative.

This is almost certainly fake news or highly warped news.

Yes, life is getting tougher. The report of low Botox inventories was especially alarming. Another week and Putin will call it all off...

BTW, the Moscow McDonald's featured in in that story just reopened and the new owner plans to open all stores in Russia by summer's end. A CNN reporter on the scene also mentioned store shelves are full now and inflation had come back down. Heck, maybe Biden should invade someone!

For dictators and would be dictators it's all about the appearance of things. One of the car plants the Russians took over after western interests pulled out reopened a week or so back to a lot of fanfare and then closed a day later because there were only enough parts on hand to complete a few cars.

They are doing things like reopening McDonalds under Russian ownership to put on appearances everything is normal. It's all smoke and mirrors.

Yes, countries at war typically import (and borrow) more while exporting less. But Russia can't borrow, thus requires exports to fund truly essential imports. And it's not like Russia is exporting critical resources needed to fight. They're exporting excess oil and gas they'd otherwise have to shut in. It's found money.

A true oil/gas embargo would be a huge blow to Russia's war effort, but the current shell game hurts us more than them.


Their treasury is growing, not draining, due to a soaring trade surplus.


Oil is paying for the war instead of Botox and Louis Vuitton handbags. It's a sacrifice Putin is willing to make.

The article from Vox EU that @petit_bateau posted yesterday did a great job of explaining how the sanctions are working and how the trade surplus from oil sales is a distraction.

The Russians are bringing in foreign currency for fossil fuel sales, but they are spending little of it because they can't import anything. Even more than the US, the Russian economy has become an import economy. A lot of things aren't happening because needed ingredients can't be imported.

They are printing rubles to keep the economy going and pay for the war. That is disconnected from foreign currencies now, which is OK short term, but that sort of thing comes back to haunt them later.

Their economy is also shrinking. I've seen estimates of 10-15% this year and probably higher next year.

Kamil Galeev had an article some weeks back about who is going to be affected. He divided Russia into 4 groups:
1) The world traveler middle class, white Russians - They are about 20% of the white population and they have been fleeing the country
2) The poorer, former peasant white Russians - About 60% of the white Russians. These people have clawed their way into the middle class after a century of pain. They have just barely been able to afford a cheap car and a big screen TV and they do not want to lose all they have gained.
3) The poorest white Russians - About 20% of the white Russian population. These are equivalent to the white working class people on the dole in the UK, the rednecks in the US, and other poorest whites in other European countries. They don't have much and are always on the margins. A shrinking economy will hurt them a lot.
4) Then there are a non-white Russians who are kept as a separate class by the white Russians. They are almost universally poor and live outside the major cities. This population has been tapped heavily for the military and are taking the brunt of the casualties in this war. Predatory lending practices has large swaths of this population so strung out financially that it's not uncommon for factory workers to commit suicide at work so their family will get paid off by the company and get out of debt. There are slang terms in Russian for this.

The richer 20% have the skills to run the more complex parts of the economy and they aren't around to participate in it anymore. They gave up trying to block YouTube and some other western sites in Russia because they don't have the servers to implement the equivalent of the Great Firewall of China nor do they have the technicians to run it.

Things are doing OK right now, but technology breaks eventually. Without skilled people to keep it running or access to replacement parts, they will see a steady decline in their tech over time. The people who have fought to get something over the last 30 years will be very unhappy when their car or TV quit and can't be repaired.

Countries do survive under sanctions. Cuba has been under sanctions for 60 years. Cuba has worked around the sanctions and become something unique. Iran and North Korea have survived sanctions too. Though starvation is a constant problem in North Korea.

All those countries had larger countries that have helped them. China is one of the few countries that could help Russia and they are reluctant to help much. So far their help has been a lot less than Putin wants. Xi is ticked off at Putin for this war and they are trying to avoid ticking off the US by helping too much.

Russia is the largest country to face these sorts of sanctions. The USSR was sort of a sanctioned state, existing in a separate ecosystem, but they had a larger population with, ironically, Ukrainian innovators to help. After WW II their ecosystem was even bigger with the Warsaw Pact countries in their system.

During communism the USSR built itself from an agrarian society into an industrial one on their own. After the fall of the USSR, some of their industry ended up in other countries, and Russia de-industrialized to a large degree as they became an import economy relying on a lot of goods imported from other countries. Now with the sanctions on, a lot of the tech they relied on from other countries is no longer available and they have no ability to produce it themselves. Nor the ability to even start because they have a growing shortage of technical expertise.

During the Soviet era they recognized the importance of a well educated class of scientists and engineers and set up a good education system to make sure a large percentage of their high school graduates had the basics and they could train quite a few in their universities. They trailed behind the west in manufacturing quality and a fair number of technologies, but their engineers were good at work arounds and they had pretty solid scientists.

The Russian school system has fallen apart over the last 30 years. They no longer have the pool of skilled engineers and scientists the Soviets had. Going back to the 1980s Soviet Union may be a dream for a lot of top people in Putin's government, but in reality it is impossible to achieve. They are starting from a very different place than Lenin and Stalin did. Lenin and then Stalin took decades to ramp up into an industrial power. Putin doesn't have decades to change the economy and there is an existing population with much higher expectations than the peasants of 1920s Russia.

Another thing is something from a book written by an American who has studied dictatorships. I saw an interview with her where she pointed out that almost universally when the state is built around the power of one man (and they are all men), things fall apart when that guy dies. Strong men tend to eliminate their rivals, so when the strong man isn't there anymore, there is nobody to replace them and the system falls apart.

The USSR and the PRC stayed together through changing leadership because there was a central party that did have a lot of power behind the scenes. When a leader died, the party would step in and replace them with someone else.

But Russia doesn't have a communist party running things anymore. The country is a cult of personality centered on Putin.

There are a lot of rumors Putin is sick and they may be true, but even if they aren't, Putin is getting up there. He might be around another decade or so if he isn't seriously ill, but he's closer to the end of his life than the beginning. When he dies, Russia is going to have some turmoil finding someone to replace him. That happening while Russia is trying to recreate their own ecosystem separate from the rest of the world would be major chaos.

Rationing would cut Europe's trade deficit. It would also help reign in inflation in both Europe and the US. It would be unpopular, of course.

Politically rationing would be a disaster. The austerity measures Europe tried due to the 2008 financial crisis almost ripped apart the EU. It hit the poorer countries very hard.

For the US any economic measures that were unpopular would likely sweep in the Republicans this fall who would start advocating for the US to send in the 1st Armored division to help Russia. At minimum they would start moving to cut off Ukraine from US military supplies. Many Republicans have been pro-Putin for a while now.

EVs are a great long-term strategy, but can't move the Russia/Ukraine needle.

Yes, short term they are not going to make much impact on a macro scale. I was talking to one person who was complaining about high gas prices (micro scale).

Chevy now sells the "25k EV" we've heard about all these years.

Though a lot of people won't buy a Chevy. My partner likes cars the size of the Bolt, but won't touch a Chevy.
 
Professor Michael Clarke answers your questions on the war in Ukraine, including how long the conflict could continue, how much more aid the West may need to give and Putin's health.
Michael Clarke is a British academic who specialises in defence studies. He was Director of the Royal United Services Institute from 2007 to 2015 /.../ Clarke is a former Deputy Vice-Principal and Director of Research Development at King's College London, where he remains a Visiting Professor of Defence Studies.[2]

Between 1990 and 2001, Clarke was the Director of the Centre for Defence Studies. From 2001 to 2005, he was the Director of the International Policy Institute. In 2004 and 2005 he was Head of the School of Social Science and Public Policy at King's College London, where he had been a Professor of Defence Studies since 1995.[2]

I've watched up to the ~35 minute mark.

Don't remember seeing somewhere else that US and British intelligence seems to have at least suspected Putler's real intent already sometime in Oktober last year. They of course told the Ukrainians immediately. The French however got this completely wrong. The French Head of Intelligence was therefore sacked.

He seems pretty knowledgeable...

 
Politically rationing would be a disaster. The austerity measures Europe tried due to the 2008 financial crisis almost ripped apart the EU. It hit the poorer countries very hard.
Apart from providing Ukraine with weapons and aid, the best things we can all do is keep our economies functioning as best we can, and progress the future including clean energy and transport, and the replacement of Fossil fuels.

That way we can live a reasonable life while continuing to provide Ukraine with assistance and gradually reduce Russian exports.

The war is lasting longer than I expected, it is a grind, we need to stay in the best possible shape so that Ukraine can get a reasonable amount of assistance.

Short term, there are challenges around food and energy, we need to take on those challenges and try to beat them.

Solving those problems will help reduce inflation. We have most of the worlds population and financial resources available to work on solutions.
 
^Perhaps we could do more.. for example redirect the world EV output to those countries who want to get off Russian oil & gas, so all EV demand is met.

It's a nice sentiment, but world EV production isn't enough. In 2021 Europe had about 11.8 million new car sales and worldwide EV production was around 7.6 million cars with 3.4 million sold in China. And the Chinese are not likely to cooperate with any kind of plan like that. Europe is already the #2 market for EVs in the world (2.3 million sold there last year). If the EV markets other than China were stripped, that would only amount to about 1 million cars.

Then there is the problem of cars made for a particular market being sent to a market other than where it was intended. A car made for the US market can't even be sold in Canada without modifications. And US and Canadian requirements differ from the EU. There may be differences within the EU, I'm not sure.

2021 (Full Year) Europe: Car Sales per EU, UK, and EFTA Country - Car Sales Statistics

EV-Volumes - The Electric Vehicle World Sales Database

And switching to EVs is going to increase demand for natural gas in the short term in many cases. A lot of electricity is generated with natural gas.

As much as switching to EVs and alternative energy might be great for everybody but Russia right now, the infrastructure just isn't there yet. Paradoxically keeping our economies as strong as possible will allow for the fastest transition and any kind of rationing will end up slowing down that transition.
 
Ukraine update: As Russia surges toward Slovyansk, Ukraine moves on Izyum

While the Russians are concentrating on taking eastern Ukraine, Ukraine continues to take back land around Kharkiv.

As it has everywhere since the invasion began, Russia continues to employ “probing by fire” — also known as sending troops forward until they get shot. Then sending more forces forward so you can tell where the bullets are originating. Then sending more troops forward.​

Russian troops are literally canon fodder.
 
An analysis of what's going on in Russia's economy
Thread by @kamilkazani on Thread Reader App

The ruble is strong because they are all export and no import, but that's a short term thing. Russia is a resource economy. They have been exporting raw resources and importing technology, mostly from Germany and France. With the sanctions in place, they can't import any of that technology and their economy is running on borrowed time.

Galeev points out that the Nord Stream pipeline is down 40% in volume because a compressor for the pipeline broke, it was sent to repair in Canada, and now they can't get it back.

Another critical component is they use a special type of bearing in all their modern trains and the entire country is completely dependent on rail. There are only three sources for those bearings, two are American and one Swedish. They don't know how to make them.

As the components that keep their economy running break, they won't have the parts to fix them and things will degrade. They will probably do things like go back to older bearing types for their trains, but the newer rail cars will go out of service as their bearing wear out and can't be replaced.

Some things they will have to do without and others will have to have work arounds devised.

Galeev points out they are putting all the emphasis on keeping military production going. The parts of the country with civilian production are crashing economically due to lack of parts. The military production areas are doing okish due to the emphasis on military, but those plants are struggling to get parts too.

They don't have the engineering and scientific expertise they had 40 years ago when they were trying to compete with the west on a shoestring. They are also reluctant to hire in Chinese expertise and most of their tech is geared to use western parts.

Basically all the tech in Russia is a ticking time bomb.