With no communication from Tesla I'm getting closer and closer to ordering an E-Mach1. My first car was a 69 Mach 1 so I guess it's meant to be.
RWD LR Order?
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Given lower financing rates, I was considering going ahead and upgrading. After seeing more Model 3s in the wild in Blue, i wasn't crazy about the color anyway (blue/white) and wanted to change to white/black.
I noticed, it is no longer allowing me to edit my design like it used to. It just redirects back to my account page. Tried both firefox and *gasp* IE. Also tested on mobile with the same response. Not sure if it means anything significant, but its a change at least.
I noticed, it is no longer allowing me to edit my design like it used to. It just redirects back to my account page. Tried both firefox and *gasp* IE. Also tested on mobile with the same response. Not sure if it means anything significant, but its a change at least.
I wonder if the delay in RWD is partially due to Model Y AWD using a heat pump for heating:
Heat pumps don't work well at very low temperatures, so the placement right next to the front motor is probably as a backup heat source similar to how the front motor is used to heat up the batteries.
But for RWD models, looks like there would need to be an alternative heat source to design.
https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/model_y_owners_manual_north_america_en.pdf
Heat pumps don't work well at very low temperatures, so the placement right next to the front motor is probably as a backup heat source similar to how the front motor is used to heat up the batteries.
But for RWD models, looks like there would need to be an alternative heat source to design.
The heat pump difference should be small. 1st Gen Nissan Leafs have heat pumps in some trims and resistive heater in others. The impact on range was small. Long range RWD model y should see higher range due to one less motor.
If you look at the order tracker sheet, RWD pre-orders only make up about 10% of the orders. That's not many at all. And it seems really unlikely to me that they'd do a special production run to make a few thousand cars at most.
But also, from the purchase agreement, "We may also cancel your pre-order and refund your Pre-Order Payment if we discontinue a product, feature or option after you place your pre-order..." So I wonder if someone threatened to take Tesla to court, they could just refund everyone's deposit and say, "sorry, folks."
Funny you mentioned the purchase agreement. The link doesn't exist anymore. I can not find it in my account.
It was attached as a PDF to my confirmation email. Attached hereto.
I have that file as well but that is the "Pre-Order" agreement, not the "Purchase" agreement, the actual purchase agreement only shows up after you are assigned a VIN.
You may be right but 10% of a million cars sold is 100K which is more then a few thousand cars. Tesla expects to deliver upwards of 500k Model Y's annually.
You also have to be careful to assume the order tracker sheet associated with a Tesla forum would be representative all buyers who may not be as enthusiastic to spend the extra money for AWD.
jgd108
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If Tesla would contact me with an option to upgrade to the AWD at the same price as when I ordered they would be able to milk $4,000 out of me before the end of the quarter..
100% correct. My mistake.
But regardless of which document this is in, I think the statement I quoted gives Tesla some protection if they wish to simply cancel a model type and give customers their money back. That's terrible optics, of course, but I don't think they could be held legally responsible in any sort of way if they did that.
Seems the edit design is bugged now.
Tried to change to AWD but the price and range is all mess up....
I'm starting to lose hope in RWD.
My car lease is going to finish in Dec 2020 so i need a car before that.
I don't think they would produce RWD and even they would I don't think it's going to be 2020.
Tried to change to AWD but the price and range is all mess up....
I'm starting to lose hope in RWD.
My car lease is going to finish in Dec 2020 so i need a car before that.
I don't think they would produce RWD and even they would I don't think it's going to be 2020.
December 2020 is a long way away. My recommendation is to give Tesla another month to get through the first batch of deliveries before you give up. Remember the car was originally not gong to be delivered until Fall 2020, they are way ahead of schedule.
I think you misunderstood what I meant. First, I don't think they're going to make the LR RWD as a part of the regular Model Y lineup moving forward, since they no longer make the same variant in the Model 3.
Second, and this is what I was getting at in my post, I don't think that they will make a special run of cars just to fulfill the 10% of pre-orders of the LR RWD- that's the small number that I was referring to.
But to make sure my math was correct I went back and filtered the spreadsheet to orders placed before Feb 1, 2020, which is 555. Of those, 109 were RWD orders, which makes about 20%- previously I had inadvertently included orders after the Q1 earnings call (when the pre-order price was reduced) so that skewed my numbers.
That said, I still think it's unlikely that they'll make a special run for that slice of pre-orders. I have no idea how many Model Y's were pre-ordered, but let's say for kicks it was 10,000 cars. At 20% that's 2,000 cars, which is still less than the number of roadsters Tesla made (~2,500). So I see a production run that small- especially for a lower margin car (compared to AWD or Performance) as being really unlikely.
Tesla must be mucking around with the RWD configuration based on what I just looked at which is different then the other day.
I love the purchase price after savings of $6,800. Quick deliver my Y-
Multiple errors
1) Purchase price of $0 is priceless
2) Model Y isn't eligible for Mass Rebate- too expensive
3) Gas savings should be zero- since it will replace my Model 3
Why Tesla cannot just list the price without the savings estimate is beyond me.
My local sales advisor is still stating I will get a call from Corporate sales to get me a reasonable AWD upgrade price. Not holding my breath but we shall see.
I love the purchase price after savings of $6,800. Quick deliver my Y-
Multiple errors
1) Purchase price of $0 is priceless
2) Model Y isn't eligible for Mass Rebate- too expensive
3) Gas savings should be zero- since it will replace my Model 3
Why Tesla cannot just list the price without the savings estimate is beyond me.
My local sales advisor is still stating I will get a call from Corporate sales to get me a reasonable AWD upgrade price. Not holding my breath but we shall see.
