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RWD this year, or hold out for Performance in a year...

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by McHoffa, May 12, 2017.

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Wait to get Performance or get RWD this year?

  1. I will get RWD so I get it ASAP

    64 vote(s)
    41.0%
  2. I will wait and get AWD even if it means I might miss the full tax credit

    77 vote(s)
    49.4%
  3. I will give up the tax credit and splurge on a PXXD

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    9.6%
  1. McHoffa

    McHoffa Member

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    Seriously torn with my purchasing decision. I've been waiting for this car forever, since before the Model S. Plan was to get optioned up AWD car. Now we know that AWD means waiting until next year, I am considering just getting RWD. I'm currently in NC mountains, but may be closer to Charlotte in a year or so where there is really no winter. I'm pretty sure I'd get mine this year if I want RWD, which means guaranteed tax credit, but that I would get that money in late January/early February, which would be very good.

    The only thing I'm torn on now is if I should put off my order, giving me another 6+ months of saving time, and getting a Performance model just for the heck of it. Fairly sure that my next car after this will be for comfort only, as it will drive itself, so thinking maybe I should get something insanely, or ludicrously, fun, even if it means paying a lot more and missing the tax credit. I've never had a fast car, so it would be a huge for me.

    Anyone else unsure of what they're going to get?
     
  2. BluestarE3

    BluestarE3 Active Member

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    #2 BluestarE3, May 12, 2017
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    I was planning to get the RWD model anyway, so being the version to ship first is just a bonus rather than the raison d'être.
     
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  3. Discoducky

    Discoducky Active Member

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    Need to see the specs of the initial launch base and options first. Most likely will pull trigger
     
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  4. RCOST

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    Maybe they'll have a P version too with rwd like original Model S?
     
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  5. SoCalGuy

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    This is indeed the $7500 question.
     
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  6. McHoffa

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    Well since I was an early line waiter, it might be a $3750 question for me. I assume I would at least make it in the half credit timeframe :)
     
  7. Waiting4M3

    Waiting4M3 Active Member

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    Don't really need AWD, or care to go super fast. Tax credit is not that critical either, just want my Tesla ASAP.
     
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  8. Az_Rael

    Az_Rael Supporting Member

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    I am going to wait for the PxxD version. I wasn't planning on it originally, but now that I have a P Model, I am spoiled. I am assuming the P will have similar performance numbers to my classic P85.
     
  9. Neo_fd3s

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    They will make P versions in RWD just like they did with the model s. Which is probably what I'll be gunning for. Don't want AWD.
     
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  10. Jason S

    Jason S Model S Sig Perf (P85)

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    The base model having 0-60 of 6s or less will be plenty for me, I think. I enjoy the RWD P85 so I think a RWD Model 3 with larger battery will be the target. I do expect a P75 to be available at launch (pun intended) and it'll be 0-60 in 5s or so, which should be plenty.
     
  11. EinSV

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    #11 EinSV, May 12, 2017
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    I didn't vote since I think there is a decent chance that the poll presents a false choice re the tax credit.

    On March 24, Elon said the "P" version would be out "probably a year from now," so roughly late March 2018. The AWD version should be available earlier.

    It seems like there is a decent shot (although not certain) that the $7500 credit won't run out until June 30, 2018, with the $3750 tax credit available until December 31, 2018. So, many customers ordering the P version may qualify for the full tax credit, depending on how things roll out.

    Personally, I am hoping to order a P version first but if the "P" timeline slips or full tax credit phases out sooner might start with an AWD instead (I hope to eventually order one P and one AWD).
     
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  12. ModelNforNerd

    ModelNforNerd Active Member

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    for me, it's either AWD or PxxD.

    we'll see what the timetables come out to be.
     
  13. JeffK

    JeffK Well-Known Member

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    AWD will be out in 2017 and P version in Q1/Q2 of 2018 meaning good chance we will all get the full credit. Threads like this post misinformation about the AWD and P timeline plus add confusion regarding the tax credit availability.
     
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  14. DR61

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    My reservation will probably be due to be filled in the spring next year so I will probably have a choice of drive type and get the full tax credit. I will probably go with RWD and large battery option; maybe P depending on price. This will be the most fun driving combination combined with close to max range.
     
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  16. Gen3Joe

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    Exactly. Missing out on the tax credit completely and getting the performance version is a false choice. The poll wording needs to be updated.
     
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  17. gjunky

    gjunky Waiting for the Model ☰

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    I wouldn't mind a RWD P version for our model 3. It is always possible to buy a regular RWD version and later sell it to buy an PXxD. This way you will get the tax credit and I doubt it will be hard to sell an early model 3...
     
  18. ohmman

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    I would be willing to forego the tax credit in order to get a performance model. In other words, timing of the tax credit isn't what's going to make my decision, and I definitely want a performance model.

    That said, there's still a very good chance I'll just keep my P85. I have been to the hardware store and lumber yard a number of times in the last couple of weeks, and am remembering how much I like the ability to haul 8'-10' long pieces of lumber and 10' long segments of PVC. I could hitch a trailer to the X, but it's much easier to just take the S. I think the 3 will have really good cargo capacity, but I don't see it being quite as versatile as the S.
     
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  19. mtnbikr

    mtnbikr New Member

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    I am a non owner in CA reserved at around 10:10 at the store morning of the opening of reservations.....

    I have 2 reservations (last minute decision while standing in line - in case a family member decided later they wanted one). One potential scenario I am debating now (If the urge for the PXXD is overwhelming) is getting a loaded RWD early (auto pilot will be a nice perk on my 35 mile one way commute in LA traffic) and then trading it in for the PXXD using the second reservation.

    If, on the slim chance this is how it goes, how much depreciation do you think I will take a hit for? My initial thought is the 3 RWD will hold value pretty well due to the back log of orders also the 7500 credit will also ease the pain - I suppose I'll have to return the $2500 to the state though....
     
  20. jelloslug

    jelloslug Active Member

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    It depends if the AWD is configured like the Model S with two smaller motors VS on big one. If it's like that, the real world range difference on the highway is worth the wait.
     
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