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S60 battery range

Discussion in 'Model S: Battery & Charging' started by ai4px, Jun 5, 2018.

  1. ai4px

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    i just looked at two MS60’s. One had 32k miles and the other 56k miles at buy here pay here lots. Charged to 95% each showed 170 and 165 miles. What’s up with that? Are those batteries abused ? Does Tesla count them as defective?
     
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    on the 2017 MS60 I had, got 187 at 90% got the up grade to MS75, 218 at 90%
     
  3. MIT_S60

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    The Refresh software limited S60 (mid 2016-2017) is not comparable to the older Nosecone S60 (early 2016 and older) since the batteries are not the same. From the 90% rating the OP had mentioned, those are definitely older nosecone S60 models.
     
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  4. Rifleman

    Rifleman Now owns 2 Model S's!!!

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    my 2013 S60 (74k miles) get 179 @ 90%, and my 2014 (76k miles total, 30k on the current battery) gets 184 @ 90%.

    We bought the 2013 as a CPO with 32k miles on it, and at that time its showed 181 @ 90%. I am very happy with how the battery is aging on this one.

    The 2014 actually had a main battery replacement a few years back, at the time that tesla replaced it under warranty, it was down to 158 @ 90%, and would not supercharge over 20 kw. The supercharging was the issue that got the replacement.

    Hope this helps!
     
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    ya, I got the refresh front
     
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    I have a 2014 S60 that gets 165 rated miles at 90% despite years of trying my best to take care of my battery (Fewer than 10 Supercharging sessions, never leaving it for extended periods of time > 90% SOC, daily SOC between 50-85%, etc.). I currently have 29k miles on my car.

    At one point my 100% was 154 rated miles (I was charging to 70% daily and maintaining 50-70% SOC) and Tesla said it was completely normal. They disregarded my polite inquiries and requests for additional diagnostics. Others have shared similar experiences. I doubt they'll consider either of those MS60s to be defective.
     
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    Can you clarify what you mean by at one point. Did you recover some range? If so how?
     
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    Certainly. I had been charging between 50-70% SOC daily for over a year, and my 100% had slowly drifted to 154 rated miles. I inquired with my local SC and NA Service who both said my car was fine. They suggested that I charge to 85-90% SOC daily instead of 70%. I started charging to 85% daily (running between 65-85% SOC daily). My 100% SOC gradually rose to 180 rated miles over several months and has since plateaued. My initial range was 205 rated miles.
     
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  9. ai4px

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    Is there a screen somewhere that tells you the SoC? The little battery icon shows mileage, the charger setup page allows me to set the SoC for charging... but how to do I display SOC live when I wnat to know?
     
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    Rated miles is one unit for state of charge. If you want to show the state of charge in percent, the option is under settings->units&format->energy&charging. Changing "distance" to "energy" will do it, I think.
     
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    I had no idea any of this was possible. Thank you. I am not at the stage yet where degradation is an issue but will keep this in mind.

    Cheers!
     
  12. ai4px

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    Thanks for the tip about the rated vs ideal miles guys. I flipped it to ideal miles and my wife just drove from Augusta GA to Atlanta GA... 143 miles, and the battery showed 147 fewer miles upon her arrival. I figure those "4" missing miles are the air conditioner running. So my guess-o-meter is right on the money!
     
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    I have a 2013 S60 and charge to 90% with 180.
     
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    There is no gradual degradation warranty on the Model S&X batteries. (The Model 3 does have one but it is at 70% of rated capacity.)
     
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    I have a 2013 S60 and charge to 90% with 179.
     
  16. TexasEV

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    You may want to go back to rated miles. No one uses ideal miles. I don’t think that’s even an option on Model 3, it was so infrequently used on S and X. Ideal usually vastly underestimates how many miles you use on a trip, unless you stay at 50 or 55 mph. Rated miles is closer, but will underestimate by 20% or so at 70-75 mph.
     

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