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Satellite Radio in Florida

Discussion in 'Florida' started by NigelM, Mar 27, 2012.

  1. NigelM

    NigelM Recovering Member

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    I e-mailed Will (Tesla - FL) this morning with a brief message (see below) about XM vs Sirius. The Tesla website now states:

    Having spoken to a number of people, I haven't found anyone round here who didn't have a problem with XM reception. Please let Will know if you want satellite radio, that it needs to be Sirius.



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    Hi Will,

    Please pass back to Tesla that XM satellite for Florida is bad news, but Sirius works just fine! The Toyota I had with XM was a disaster and I lost the signal regularly around the city even here in Sarasota. That problem will be worse in places south of here (Miami!) and in places with more high rises (Tampa!).

    Here is the map showing XM coverage and you can see how the EIRP is much lower across 95% of Florida. This is due to XM using 2 geostationary satellites:

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    Sirius on the other hand, has 3 elliptical satellites which provide much better coverage:

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    Having spoken with others who have tried XM, believe me you will likely face many complaints in Florida if XM is the satellite radio of choice in the Model S.

    Best regards,

    Nigel
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  2. AnOutsider

    AnOutsider S532 # XS27

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    Hey Nigel,

    Should we be signing a petition or emailing someone in particular? I personally would GREATLY prefer Sirius, so if I can do anything to help sway them, I'm in.
     
  3. NigelM

    NigelM Recovering Member

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    Mail your Tesla Rep and I'll PM you with the e-mail of our Florida Manager.
     
  4. dpeilow

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    BTW, the Florida problem is not purely down to XM using geostationary satellites (this should actually favour more southerly latitudes), but more because they have these shaped reflectors producing EIRP hotspots over the North West and North East. Geo loses out to Sirius' tundra orbit for getting into urban canyons though.
     
  5. NigelM

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    Same result though, and I wanted to keep my mail simple. BTW, thanks for the pics/graphis David! Helped me do all the research I needed. I really hope Tesla hasn't made a final decision.
     
  6. AnOutsider

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    I wonder: is there some technical or financial advantage for going with one or the other?
     
  7. NigelM

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    Advantage for XMSirius? Why they haven't managed to merge the 2 operations is beyond me.
     
  8. dpeilow

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    Totally different receiver standard and populations. I'm sure it will start to happen once the systems come up for renewal and they have sufficient dual-mode receivers out there. What was killing them as seperate companies was the cost of content and presenters.
     
  9. AnOutsider

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    I guess then what I wonder is why not go with a dual receiver vs strictly XM? I was just wondering at first if there was some "deal" Tesla got for serving up XM only.
     
  10. dpeilow

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    No excuse really, their MiRGE receivers have been around since 2009.
     

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