SB 6586 - Do NOT let this happen!
- Thread starter ChrisH
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sure but this is going to push people out of the electric market when it’s only 2% of cars!!!!
$525 A year for a 15,000 mile driver in an EV vs $181 in gas tax for 15,000 miles in an ICE vehicle.
Dr. J
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Wow, that's nearly twice what I spend on "fuel." 8.1 cents / kWh * 75 kWh /310 miles = 1.96 cents / mile (+ charging losses, etc.)
Reference: http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2019-20/Pdf/Bills/Senate Bills/6586.pdf?q=20200122192330
Reference: http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2019-20/Pdf/Bills/Senate Bills/6586.pdf?q=20200122192330
Current Washington state tax is about 50 cents per gal. If you figure 30 mpg, that’s 1.6 cents per mile so 3.5 cents is over twice as much!?
yep. It’s insane. Oregon has an optional 1.7 cents per mile pilot. That seems like a fair amount. But only if they drop the EV fees and make gas cars pay the same.
marksvend
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Use this link to comment on the bill! Washington State Legislature
seattlite2004
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They must think that EV owners can afford the extra tax....in fact...most probably can. Most got that sales tax exception....so prob a net zero when you add everything up. Gotta pay to play in this wonderful state.
lol. Ugh. $1409/yr for a base model 3 when you drive 15,000 miles ($525) have the EV fees, and $659 for the RTA tax. Insane.
goneskiian
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seattlite2004
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It really helps to have a conversation in person w/ data (like the comparison to petro cars listed above).
A lot of these representatives are just hearing from lobbyist over lunches. They need to hear what the voters think. A lobbyist can make something sound real good - that's what they are paid for.
A lot of these representatives are just hearing from lobbyist over lunches. They need to hear what the voters think. A lobbyist can make something sound real good - that's what they are paid for.
Foxhound199
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Where do they want to charge $750? I recall seeing some horrible EV bill get proposed last yr, but don't remember anything that bad.
One tiny piece of good news is that this current bill gets rid of one of the EV fees (the $75 "electrification fee"). But yeah, 3.5c/mi doesn't seem reasonable.
walla2
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Anyone have an odometer rollback hack?
This law is heavily flawed in terms of rate and pushes away from basically all EVs and most hybrids.
The state has no infrastructure for how this is reported or paid. Am I to go to the DMV every year and have my odometer read? Do I only pay tax on miles driven in Washington or is Washington going to tax apply an interstate tax? I mostly drive in Oregon where I already enjoy a lovely income tax that pays for services that I can not use and do not have access to. Now I will pay road maintenance in Washington for roads I don't drive on at a higher rate than a Hummer towing a 12000 lbs trailer.
This law is heavily flawed in terms of rate and pushes away from basically all EVs and most hybrids.
The state has no infrastructure for how this is reported or paid. Am I to go to the DMV every year and have my odometer read? Do I only pay tax on miles driven in Washington or is Washington going to tax apply an interstate tax? I mostly drive in Oregon where I already enjoy a lovely income tax that pays for services that I can not use and do not have access to. Now I will pay road maintenance in Washington for roads I don't drive on at a higher rate than a Hummer towing a 12000 lbs trailer.
When a Washington State Rep tried to introduce a bill last year that tried a large increase on the EV fee he actually had the nerve to say that it was OK because EV owners could afford it.
Either it's a public good, or it's a fee. Either way, road fees for EV drivers shouldn't be different to those for gasoline vehicles.
I assume that dumb legislation like this is either an expected failure designed purely for political image, or it's a negotiating tactic to make the actual cost look like a reduction.
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