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Schedule for Autopilot features

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by si123ca, Oct 10, 2014.

  1. si123ca

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    #1 si123ca, Oct 10, 2014
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    Can we put together the best we know about the expected availability of various autopilot features? Anything you've heard from any reliable source (press, tesla employee, etc) would be useful.
    Just to start off:

    Speed Assist and Lane Departure Warning: Already available (at least some new owners have reported it)
    ACC (Adaptive Cruise Control): Couple of months?? (6.xx firmware required?)
    Lane Holding (as demo'd yesterday): ??
    Auto Lane Change (as demo'd yesterday): ??
    Blind-spot Warning: ??
    Collision Detect/Emergency Braking: ??
    Cross-Traffic Alert: ??
    Traffic-signal/Stop-sign Detection: ??
     
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    Adding one more

    Self-Parking: ??
     
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    Based off of the time-frame for previous software releases.. my bet would be years before the full suite is pushed out. Look how long 6.0 took and it ended up being a pretty underwhelming update.
     
  4. ElSupreme

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    My guesses.

    Speed Assist and Lane Departure Warning: Now
    ACC (Adaptive Cruise Control): Early Q2 of 2015
    Lane Holding (as demo'd yesterday): End of 2014, maybe coupled with ACC use so delayed with ACC, and probably only interstate/limited access roads
    Auto Lane Change (as demo'd yesterday): End of 2015, probably requires some operator input (like blinker stalk)
    Blind-spot Warning: Now / End of 2014
    Collision Detect/Emergency Braking: Now / End of 2014, maybe coupled with ACC rollout
    Cross-Traffic Alert: Not sure what this is
    Traffic-signal/Stop-sign Detection: End of 2015, stop sign much easier than signal, might be rolled out seperately
    Self park: End of Q2 of 2015
     
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    breser AutoPilot Nostradamus

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    My bets, based largely on the assumption that they're going to roll out the things that help them on the safety ratings as quickly as possible:

    Speed Assist and Lane Departure Warning: Now
    ACC (Adaptive Cruise Control): December or January (very shortly after first D's start being delivered, I just can't see them delivering cars with hardware switches that do nothing for long)
    Lane Holding (as demo'd yesterday): Q4 2015 (this goes beyond what the safety ratings want)
    Auto Lane Change (as demo'd yesterday): Q4 2015 (this is really out there, may never make it to the car)
    Blind-spot Warning: December of January (same software upgrade as ACC)
    Collision Detect/Emergency Braking: December or January (same software upgrade as ACC)
    Cross-Traffic Alert: duplicate this is blind-spot detection by another name.
    Traffic-signal/Stop-sign Detection: End of 2015 (again way beyond what anyone else has, no hurry)
    Self park: Q4 2015 (same update as lane holding/lane change)

    So basically I see two updates.

    One later this year or early next with ACC, Blind-spot warning, Collision detect/emergency braking.
    One late next year with the other stuff.
     
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    Probably need to split out the self-parking into separate features as I don't think they will be available all at once.

    There is the typical automated parallel parking.

    Elon also stated there will be remote parking (you get out of the car, the car drives to your garage, opens the garage door, closes it, then shuts off).

    And car summoning - the car drives by itself to meet you with the climate control set and favourite station or music playing - he also said this could be linked to your calender.
     
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    This will certainly require some legislation. And probably legislation to limit a manufacuter's liability in an accident.

    Gee Wow automatic parking with someone behind the wheel. It's a gimick, so probably not till after the easier more important stuff is done. It will become low hanging fruit after a while. So then.
     
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    We are talking Elon time, of course, and he said "over the next few months" which probably means not before the end of the year.

    However, they can only go so long selling people on a car with "autopilot" without delivering it-- and if you look at their website, that is exactly what they are selling. I would guess we'll see ACC soon-- maybe before the end of the year. There is nothing special about ACC, and no reason they shouldn't be able to deliver that any day now.

    Does it do blind spot warning now? No easy way to test that, I suppose.

    I think it will do lane holding, auto lane change, freeway autopilot by the end of Q1 next year (2015). Maybe sooner.

    Self parking? I wonder if it will ever do that...
     
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    They have all the hardware, and clearly have the software basically worked out. I think you'll see freeway autopilot as demonstrated within the next couple months.
    Walter
     
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    Agreed. Don't buy a Tesla based on promised features. Buy one on what it has now. Software improvements have been great, but always slower than promised. One hopes that the reason 6.0 wasn't very aggressive was because most of their software team was working on this stuff, but I'm not holding my breath that these are features with an impending release date.

    Self parking sounds an awful lot like battery swap stations: something that works great in a demo, but is substantially more difficult to put into practice.
     
  12. Blurry_Eyed

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    I believe Tesla has a fairly small development team, so I would suspect that they have been putting a significant amount of their time into developing the software for the Autopilot features as well as the dual motor controls. From the video I saw of the event last night, the demos were pretty impressive, so factor that in to the reason that 6.0 took so long and was relatively underwhelming.
     
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    Normally with some announced new functionality I'm cautiously reserved on when we may actually get it but to advertise Autopilot so direct and "in your face" on the website like they have makes me believe this is much closer to becoming reality than new features in the past.
     
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    This is a huge competitive advantage for them. The website states ramp to ramp autopilot is the goal of the current hardware. I think that will be the software team's focus for the next 2 years. Failure to accomplish this very publically advertised goal would be a catastrophe and not like the smaller broken promises we've experienced.
     
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    For what it's worth in trying to make "educated" guesses, the cars being used for the demo last night were running 6.0 (101.10.12). That might suggest that all the features that were shown last night will become available within the 6.0 software and that we won't have to wait for another major release.
     
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    2 years? If it takes them 2 years, they should give up. GM will have something similar in less than 2 years. I'd be disappointed if they don't have some of these features (autopilot, primarily) by January.

     
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    I meant 2 years for the whole big deal: fully automated ramp to ramp driving, car picking you up in a parking lot, etc. I fully expect what was demo'd to be available early next year.
     
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    This is the absolutely best advice I have seen ever on buying a Tesla - and should be on the Tesla sales contract.

    There is a very good chance (almost guaranteed) that some significant portion of the features announced in the marketing and futures presentation migrate into the "never" category (notwithstanding the fact that other cars have the features) for whatever reason to remain forever there (with battery swap and others).
     

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