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keeping he car awake with sentry mode does work for me with my Zappi2 charger, though it does consume a little extra power that way. I need to do that with the Zappi in Eco++ mode, where it only charges with excess solar PV power. That can disappear during the day for more than the 15 minutes or so it stays awake for.

When I get to switch to Octopus Go (no smart meter yet) and when I need to drive the car more, I was planning to schedule the start from the car and manage the finish by target charge using a rough correlation of 10% charge per hour. So I'll set it 40% higher than where I am now. I know there are many factors that will influence that assumption (battery charge, temperature, phase of the moon) but on my tests, it's not been far off. I may lose a few pennies here and there.

Really interesting to see how we are all working around a really annoying failure of Tesla to simply play by the EV rules!

When I was on Go (before moving to Agile) I set the car to charge at 00:30 from the car and use TeslaFi schedule to stop charging at 04:30
 
Hardly ever. It just seems to work, but I don’t know how.

iOS is free to quit an app at any time, it affords no guarantee to keep an app multi-tasking. My presumption was that the ev.energy’s servers are configured by the app and that it is driven from there.
 
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This is an example (from this morning) why I’m not in love with the Energy.Ev app.

If anyone has ideas as to why then welcome. Parameters:
1) set to charge from car at 00:00 to stop car charging immediately when plugged in (recommendation from energy.ev app)
2) Charge limit set to 90%
3) car ready by 16:00 (trivial time to avoid charging to stop)
4) off-peak threshold set to <5p

- Can see from TeslaFi that car tried at 00:00 but quickly stopped. Can live with that.
- Can see it took a while to initiate a charge. Presume tried waking car up, waited and then tried charging again
- No idea why it missed 00:30
- Or why it didn’t start at 01:30
- Why it stopped at 03:00.

Thinking while typing this - wonder if tariff information is of a different region. I’ve got location set in the app and Octopus Agile Feb 2008 tariff selected. Hmm. Maybe time to raise a ticket with them
 
Your car didn’t need to charge in all of those half hours so the app chose the cheapest times to charge to ensure the car was 90% by 16:00 which is the parameters you asked. Looks like it did what it should.

12:00 midnight agree, probably just making sure the car isn’t in deep-deep sleep and getting SoC from the car to work out how many 1/2 hours you will need.

Regardless of the app, cars can take a minute or so to wake up.
 
View attachment 553493 View attachment 553494 This is an example (from this morning) why I’m not in love with the Energy.Ev app.

If anyone has ideas as to why then welcome. Parameters:
1) set to charge from car at 00:00 to stop car charging immediately when plugged in (recommendation from energy.ev app)
2) Charge limit set to 90%
3) car ready by 16:00 (trivial time to avoid charging to stop)
4) off-peak threshold set to <5p

- Can see from TeslaFi that car tried at 00:00 but quickly stopped. Can live with that.
- Can see it took a while to initiate a charge. Presume tried waking car up, waited and then tried charging again
- No idea why it missed 00:30
- Or why it didn’t start at 01:30
- Why it stopped at 03:00.

Thinking while typing this - wonder if tariff information is of a different region. I’ve got location set in the app and Octopus Agile Feb 2008 tariff selected. Hmm. Maybe time to raise a ticket with them
Looks like they have used the 2 cheapest charging periods to get your car to 90%?

Given the energy prices and timings during which periods do you think it should have charged at?

I think the 12am wake up is probably Tesla starting the scheduled charge and the eV energy app cancelling it and taking over the schedule.
 
Agree with @NewbieT and @Medved_77, the app seems to be doing roughly what it should. Maybe I’m missing something?

Surprised it is drifting over the half-hour periods slightly though. Might be worth a chat with the ev.energy about that and anything else you don’t think is right. I’ve found them very helpful.

I don’t think it is ever going to be perfect due to time taken by the car to respond to API calls, but its close enough, better than the built-in charge features and way better than anything manual.
 
Hi ya
I’m on the Go Tariff and use EV energy on my Rolec charger
My cheap tariff time is between 12midnight and 4am... I have set my pramenters so that it only chargers at this cheap off peak rate. I realise that it won’t fully charge over this time if my battery is very low (I’m set to max 80% in the car).

My question is.... why does the charging stop at 3.30am and not 4am each time ? The car isn’t fully charged and my cheap rate hasn’t yet ended
 
Hi ya
I’m on the Go Tariff and use EV energy on my Rolec charger
My cheap tariff time is between 12midnight and 4am... I have set my pramenters so that it only chargers at this cheap off peak rate. I realise that it won’t fully charge over this time if my battery is very low (I’m set to max 80% in the car).

My question is.... why does the charging stop at 3.30am and not 4am each time ? The car isn’t fully charged and my cheap rate hasn’t yet ended
On the Go tariff I'm not sure why you would use the smart charging function of the ev energy app? I'd just set the charging schedule in the car between 12-4am. You can disable smart charging and just use it for stats if you wish although TeslaFi would also do a good job of this if you're already using that.

Not sure about your specific question though, sorry.
 
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On the Go tariff I'm not sure why you would use the smart charging function of the ev energy app? I'd just set the charging schedule in the car between 12-4am. You can disable smart charging and just use it for stats if you wish although TeslaFi would also do a good job of this if you're already using that.

Not sure about your specific question though, sorry.
Slight pedantry, you can’t schedule a stop time so you have to work out the charge rate and how much charge the car needs, and adjust the target state of charge so it doesn’t exceed 4:30 am. So if the car is at 70% and you set the target to 80%, then it’ll complete in roughly an hour, but if the car is at 20% then it won’t go from 20 to 80% in 4 hours, and therefore you need to dial back the target state of charge (or let it go beyond 4:30 if you need it fully charged for next day).

The joys of Tesla ownership!
 
Slight pedantry, you can’t schedule a stop time so you have to work out the charge rate and how much charge the car needs, and adjust the target state of charge so it doesn’t exceed 4:30 am. So if the car is at 70% and you set the target to 80%, then it’ll complete in roughly an hour, but if the car is at 20% then it won’t go from 20 to 80% in 4 hours, and therefore you need to dial back the target state of charge (or let it go beyond 4:30 if you need it fully charged for next day).

The joys of Tesla ownership!
Ah, you're right. Been a while since I used that function.
 
I'd just set the charging schedule in the car between 12-4am.

Another pedants hat on. I can't actually see any Go products that are 12-4am. The original Go is 00:30-04:30.

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