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Seal issues?

Discussion in 'Model S: Interior & Exterior' started by jeffro01, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. jeffro01

    jeffro01 Active Member

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    So I have an appointment with my SC for next Monday for some dash rattle issues that have finally gotten bad enough for me to care, no big deal there. Also need to get the front passenger door realigned as the B pillar wind noise is getting out of hand. However, since we took the car to Tahoe and through the rain I have now found multiple spots where various seals (pano and rear doors) are coming unstuck from their double sided tape. While I haven't had any leaks that I can find, it's a bit odd to find 3 different places where the seals are coming "unglued".

    Has anyone else seen this before? My primary problems center around the pano roof seal thats right after the opening towards the front when the roof is opened, I can actually pick that seal up and move it around... The other two areas are at the bottom right (when facing the opening) of the rear passenger doors (both sides), where the inside seal that stays on the car is well, no longer stuck.

    Getting these fixed shouldn't be much of an issue but it does make me wonder just how much of the seals are held on with double sided tape and thus, how many more issues am I going to have?

    Thanks,
    Jeff
     
  2. jeffro01

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    Okay so I can't figure out how to edit my own post.... The button is now gone, or at least moved to where I can't find it... Hate the new design BTW...

    In any case, to be clear, I mean the bottom right towards the rear of the car when standing outside facing the rear passenger door openings...

    Jeff

    EDIT: Okay so it seems you can edit a subsequent post but can't edit the first post, odd...
     
  3. Max*

    Max* Autopilot != Autonomous

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    The button is still there, under your post lower left hand side. Same as old Tesla, you can only edit for X minutes/hours after you make the initial post.

    As to the seals, all mine are glued fine, so no help here.
     
  4. ArcticSun

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    Those door seals are beauty seals and provide no function other than covering up a seam.
     
  5. Mark Z

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    Yes, on Model X. My front door forward seal is attached with the sticky "tape" on the rubber seal. Saw it loose when drying the seals after washing the vehicle.

    Looking at my 2012 Model S Signature, it appears the seals at the front door are attached firmly at various points. No loose seals on those doors.

    I do have concern with the "tape" method as it is used frequently with Model X. If there are going to be problems, let it be now - before Model 3 is engineered with something that may have a limited life span.
     
  6. TaoJones

    TaoJones Beyond Driven

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    So far, I've had one pano leak that affected the A pillar area, and, separately, pano noise. The former was addressed by component replacement, and the latter by some tape or grease or both. I have noticed that the pano seals don't always seal as well as they could, which does suggest that water may get in there again. I love the pano roof concept, but this is clearly a problem.

    The driver's door seal wore through last year due to a headliner misalignment that I fought through since month 1 and finally got resolved in month 11ish. As it turns out, they didn't quite seat the new door seal well, so it's wearing again and will probably need to be replaced later this year.

    Not looking forward to dealing with these kinds of problems after 50,000 miles, which is why I'm leaning toward selling the car in a few months as will be at 50,000 miles in about month 18. Depreciation is predictable - unlimited repairs are not. It's either that or hoping for the best until months 36-39 (GRV less mileage hit will then be an option). The original plan was to keep the car for the full 8 years - now it's going to be 3 years or 1.5 years depending. Not a smart use of money or time.

    A shame since the drivability remains unparalleled (TACC is vastly improved after a year of tweaking, and Autosteer will get there eventually), tires are holding up great at 40,000+ miles, and so forth. Even my Porsche-driving friends are considering the unthinkable *chuckle*.
     
  7. MitchMitch

    MitchMitch Lurker In Chief

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    They totally ruined K-Dock and completely stink up PIER 39.

    Oh wait, those are Sea Lions . . . nevermind ! :D
     
  8. Mark Z

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    Is the double sided tape like this door seal on Model X? The mounting tape is about 1/4" wide and has lost stickiness.

    This is a front door seal that has been flipped over after it came loose about 4 months after delivery. Original post with more photos of this Model X seal is here: Road Noise ? That bad ?

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  9. jeffro01

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    That's unfortunate, the double sided tape approach can work as 3M has done wonders with automotive grade adhesive but for some reason, at least on my car and apparently on your X, Tesla either isn't applying them correctly to begin with or isn't properly prepping the surface...

    Jeff
     

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