OK, it's time to have this discussion. :-(
So, if Tesla goes private and you choose to keep the stock, if you own it outright it's nice and simple. You keep the stock.
If it's wrapped in an IRA or Roth IRA, however.... you have to find a custodian who will allow you to hold private equity. This may require switching to a company which offers "self directed IRAs", which doesn't include the usual brokerages like Fidelity and Schwab. :-(
I'm hoping some of the usual brokerages will make an exception for Tesla due to the unique circumstances. Both Schwab and Fidelity and even Etrade *sometimes* hold private stock, but it's on a case-by-case basis. Even then they charge annual fees.
Can't guarantee it. So I figured I'd better do my research immediately... I started researching.
This is the most useful thing I've found yet:
Ultimate List of Self Directed IRA Custodians and Administrators
And a similar same list:
Self Directed IRA Custodians - Download Free Comprehensive Listing
They're all super expensive! Typically they burn you for $350+ per year and $100 to set up; this is just the average of the ones I've looked at!
They also mostly have terrible reputations for awful customer service -- failing to answer the phone, failing to do paperwork correctly, basic stuff like that. They range from one-man shops to... very small banks.
So far Polycomp is the first one I've found with a half-decent reputation, though I've only looked through about five. Equity Trust has a truly awful reputation (though some say it's OK if you find the right person and email them); Accuplan is even worse. Pensco, Entrust have merely bad reputations; so does Quest IRA. IRA Resources Trust has a bad reputation for customer service too, but they seem to have the lowest fees ($200/year) and seem to have a better reputation for customer service if you don't do any time-sensitive transactions. (Plus I think I can get to their office.) Advanta doesn't have negative reviews but also doesn't have a significant number of reviews at all... Millennium Trust are actually criminals.
I found out that a "checkbook control IRA" means holding an LLC in your IRA, so it's something to avoid for mere holding of private placement stock.
It's also worth knowing that EVERY IRA custodian is either a bank or on the following list.
Approved Nonbank Trustees and Custodians | Internal Revenue Service
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Anyway, my initial conclusion is: unfortunately, if the company goes private, it's probably best to cash out stock held in an IRA. Unless Musk offers us some kind of special deal for IRA holders, it's a nightmare, whereas holding the stock after-tax is free of fees.
But if anyone's got better information, add it to this thread.
I'd suggest anyone with stock in a retirement account vote against the deal, and contact Musk to ask him what he is going to do for people with TSLA in their IRAs, 401(k)s, Canadian retirement plans, etc. Otherwise you may face a choice betwen cashing out and getting hit with $400 fees every year just to hold your TSLA stock.
So, if Tesla goes private and you choose to keep the stock, if you own it outright it's nice and simple. You keep the stock.
If it's wrapped in an IRA or Roth IRA, however.... you have to find a custodian who will allow you to hold private equity. This may require switching to a company which offers "self directed IRAs", which doesn't include the usual brokerages like Fidelity and Schwab. :-(
I'm hoping some of the usual brokerages will make an exception for Tesla due to the unique circumstances. Both Schwab and Fidelity and even Etrade *sometimes* hold private stock, but it's on a case-by-case basis. Even then they charge annual fees.
Can't guarantee it. So I figured I'd better do my research immediately... I started researching.
This is the most useful thing I've found yet:
Ultimate List of Self Directed IRA Custodians and Administrators
And a similar same list:
Self Directed IRA Custodians - Download Free Comprehensive Listing
They're all super expensive! Typically they burn you for $350+ per year and $100 to set up; this is just the average of the ones I've looked at!
They also mostly have terrible reputations for awful customer service -- failing to answer the phone, failing to do paperwork correctly, basic stuff like that. They range from one-man shops to... very small banks.
So far Polycomp is the first one I've found with a half-decent reputation, though I've only looked through about five. Equity Trust has a truly awful reputation (though some say it's OK if you find the right person and email them); Accuplan is even worse. Pensco, Entrust have merely bad reputations; so does Quest IRA. IRA Resources Trust has a bad reputation for customer service too, but they seem to have the lowest fees ($200/year) and seem to have a better reputation for customer service if you don't do any time-sensitive transactions. (Plus I think I can get to their office.) Advanta doesn't have negative reviews but also doesn't have a significant number of reviews at all... Millennium Trust are actually criminals.
I found out that a "checkbook control IRA" means holding an LLC in your IRA, so it's something to avoid for mere holding of private placement stock.
It's also worth knowing that EVERY IRA custodian is either a bank or on the following list.
Approved Nonbank Trustees and Custodians | Internal Revenue Service
-----
Anyway, my initial conclusion is: unfortunately, if the company goes private, it's probably best to cash out stock held in an IRA. Unless Musk offers us some kind of special deal for IRA holders, it's a nightmare, whereas holding the stock after-tax is free of fees.
But if anyone's got better information, add it to this thread.
I'd suggest anyone with stock in a retirement account vote against the deal, and contact Musk to ask him what he is going to do for people with TSLA in their IRAs, 401(k)s, Canadian retirement plans, etc. Otherwise you may face a choice betwen cashing out and getting hit with $400 fees every year just to hold your TSLA stock.