mk677
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that is very debatable.Tesla has the best and most efficient power trains
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that is very debatable.Tesla has the best and most efficient power trains
you'd lose that bet
Independant auto tear down artist has torn apart most of the drivelines of available EVs. Says nobody is close to the technology that Tesla has implemented in their drive trains. Europeans fell well short. Believes that the upcoming EVs from China will take over tremendous market share from our domestic and imported EV producers.Do you have proof of this?
Well, I should of known this day would come. After 2 years with my Model 3 Performance, Porsche is tempting me to shift from Tesla to a Taycan Turismo (wagon).
Is showing up on my local Porsche Dealer configuration for $120K CDN (~$90K USD).
Tesla friends help me resist the temptation:
Pros with sticking with my Tesla M3P:
- Faster performance (0-60 in ~3secs vs ~5secs) - No, I can't justify the Turbo S
- Supercharging network for long trips
- FSD/Autopilot - even though we really don't have true FSD yet
- Regular feature/firmware updates
- Minimalistic interior
- Cost savings (~$70K M3P vs ~$90K Taycan)
- Larger range (~450-500kms vs 350-400km)
Pros with switching to Porsche Taycan:
- Porsche name (neighbor envy, most of my neighbors have Teslas)
- Sporty performance (not faster)
- Porsche quality
- I like the wagon looks
- Sports car like interior
My wife has been hounding me to upgrade to a Tesla Model S but maybe I should sell her on the Porsche Taycan Turismo
I may be a contrarian but paying Porsche money for an electric car seems a poor bet right now. I think that the next 5 years improvements are coming so fast that you will be stuck with old technology. So many new cars are coming out that I am not sure what is the best strategy. For really high end cars maybe leasing ?
Yes, but the Taycan is Porsche's Tesla OG Roadster -- remember, from 2008? Every manufacturer needs time to get it just right. Hopefully Porsche won't need 13 years, but that is the lead that Tesla has. There is a reason the M3 is the best car on the planet. Well several reasons, but this is one of them.you are taking the same risks regarding improvements in the tech regardless of what EV you purchase.
leasing certainly is a hedge against such fears.
get a grip fan boi. the M3 is hardly the best car on the planetYes, but the Taycan is Porsche's Tesla OG Roadster -- remember, from 2008? Every manufacturer needs time to get it just right. Hopefully Porsche won't need 13 years, but that is the lead that Tesla has. There is a reason the M3 is the best car on the planet. Well several reasons, but this is one of them.
Well you joined a couple months ago and and often act like TSLAQ. Not sure your bias is any less than lotusland.get a grip fan boi. the M3 is hardly the best car on the planet
I’ll wait for the “Taycan Cross Turismo Cabriolet“I don't think this is going to help you. Doug Demuro loved it. LOL
Sit in a Porsche Taycan then go sit in a Model3/Y. Pretty sure when that Model Y blows past you at the stop light you will smile and giggle at the pauper as you sit back in your massaging seat and ask your trophy wife to pass you the Grey Poupon.The M3 may not be the 'best' car, but it's a damn good one! Porsche is a high-end luxury / performance brand. Pretty much apples and oranges. The M3 class is for everyone else.
Just for giggles, I configured a Taycan Turismo (lowest model) the way I'd want it. I reached 114K and was only halfway through the list of packages. For that kinda money, I'd expect a little better performance than 4.8 0-60. It's not a slouch by any means, but a Model Y shouldn't be giving it competition at a light.
At 114k, I'm already thinking about what color I'd want my Model S Plaid in.
That will divorce you, take your Porsche and marry the Model Y driver for not being pompous.and ask your trophy wife to pass you the Grey Poupon.
I don't push my P3D- often but I will spank every Taycan Turislow I see.
The only "aura" Porsche (VW) carries for me is that of a company that purposely and criminally polluted the planet in pursuit of profits. They are literally the anti-Tesla....the aura of being in a porsche.