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Seriously, what's the deal with text message integration?

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by KalTorak, Jul 15, 2018.

  1. KalTorak

    KalTorak Member

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    For as much as Tesla's brand promise is about tech, some things just seem to be missing.
    Why won't the car display or read me my texts? Why can't I respond by voice?
     
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    ....uhhh maybe because u should be driving and paying attention to road ?:eek:....I had this feature in my BMW and it’s overrated ...,
     
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  3. ba2002

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    My car displays the text messages right next to the blind spot indicator.
     
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  4. Barry

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    Seriously, there is none.
     
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    I used the feature recently in my wife's new honda with apple carplay. It was convenient to hear and respond to the text messages without touching the phone and taking my eyes off the road.

    I agree you should be paying attention to driving! I see plenty of horrible drivers out there swerving on the road, varying speed, etc., and 90% of the time, that person is on their phone. I'm sure all of you may have noticed, however, that text messaging has somewhat replaced phone calls and it often has time sensitive content that could use a quick reply. If the car could handle it like carplay does, that would be a great convenience and safety feature.
     
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  6. bob_p

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    Musk promised "screen mirroring" several years ago, though he indicated it would more likely be a 3rd party or custom solution, and not licensing of Apple CarPlay or Android Auto.

    And we really haven't heard anything about this for quite a while.

    Tesla will likely have the only EV without any form of screen mirroring or increased smartphone integration. At some point, this could impact sales.

    We don't know what will be in the 9.0 release. This is the longest Tesla has gone between major releases (which had been roughly once per year).

    It's possible we'll see this in 9.0 - though if Tesla was planning to do this, it seems likely we'd have heard something by now...
     
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  7. Krash

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    My mid 2017 Model S reads and responds to texts over Cortana via a Bluetooth connected Windows device. Are you sure iOS and Android don't do that?
     
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    Who uses text anyway? Isn't it all Telegram and WhatsApp these days?

    I haven't received a text from a real person in at least a year or 5 or so.
     
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    #9 David29, Jul 16, 2018
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    Texting while driving is illegal in MA and probably in some other states. I am not aware of an exception for hands-free voice-to-text and text-to-voice technology. In case of an accident, I suspect the cop would look at your phone, see the text messages, and charge you. Arguing that your phone or car read them to you might or might not get you off the hook....

    Here is the summary (not the actual text) of the relevant section of the law from the state's DMV website. (Note there is a separate section that prohibits all use of cellphones by underage drivers.)

    "Civil Offense-No insurance surcharge (Operators cannot use any mobile telephone or handheld device capable of accessing the Internet to write, send, or read an electronic message including text messages, emails, and instant messages or to access the Internet while operating a vehicle. Law applies even if the vehicle is stopped in traffic.)
    • 1st offense-$100
    • 2nd offense-$250
    • 3rd or subs offense-$500"
     
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    #10 Krash, Jul 16, 2018
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    You should be an attentive driver, but although US state laws very slightly, the police generally cannot look at your phone without your permission or a warrant unless you leave it in the car after an accident.
     
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    With a minor incident you're probably right. At least in Europe drivers got their phones inspected after accidents with seriously injured or killed people and some of them now serve prison time for using their phone when the incident occurred.

    Lorry driver Tomasz Kroker jailed for 10 years for killing family on A34 | Metro News
     
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    I purchased my Model S nearly two years ago just after Elon tweeted about screen mirroring. Having owned the car I had imagined some scenarios how what was being described might work.

    Aside from Carplay or Android integration through a native API Tesla may have a path to achieve this by using the phone app as a gateway to screen casting. This isn’t dissimilar to already existing apps that enable phones or tablets to be used as touch screen enabled extensions of PC’s.

    Alternatively I thought the browser might provide a stopgap if audio streaming were enabled through it (didn’t happen!).

    Something along these lines was demoed at CES using Waze last year by Abalta called Weblink. Here’s a video using a Kenwood receiver:



    Yep- It’s not ideal but it at least allows third party apps like Waze to be cast onto the screen using some sort of HTML via the phone app.

    My concern is that if Tesla does come up with some sort of solution, either through one of the big phone OS’s or a third party/in-house workaround that works like Weblink, that the solution would be contingent upon the new Intel based CPU’s requiring a substantial portion of the fleet to upgrade the motherboards.
     

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