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Service says $22k for new battery on 2012 Model S

Discussion in 'Model S: Battery & Charging' started by badpenny, Feb 24, 2021.

  1. SmartElectric

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    The $15K core charge is logically defensible. That pack is useful to Tesla, as they may spend a week to break down the "bad" pack, identify healthy components, replace unhealthy and determine suitability of repurposing refitting for someone else's warranty replacement. The BMS boards and related hardware have been improved many times, it is not practical to maintain "forever" newly manufactured boards for 8+ year old packs, so the core charge is a real disincentive for owners, as it should be.

    The labor cost alone is $4K (one weeks salary, benefits) then thousands per pack in costs for building/storage, equipment, testing rigs, software/firmware testing (to make sure old battery packs can be re-integrated properly), the list is long that Tesla invested in to provide this required warranty battery replacement option.

    It floors me that owners believe this is simple and cheap to do, it's clearly and provably not.
     
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  2. ThomasD

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    I wish I got 4k a week What is the cost to Tesla to refurbish the battery pack. Can anyone just buy the modules from Panasonic and fix the pack themselves?
     
  3. MP3Mike

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    Panasonic doesn't make modules... And they don't sell Tesla's proprietary cells to anyone else.
     
  4. SabrToothSqrl

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    I saw a few 2013-2015 S85s, some with AP 1 for about $25-30k on cars.com / auto trader.

    For $22k, I'd rather spend another $2-3 and get a WHOLE CAR.... then you have your old one for parts!
     
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  5. rns-e

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    And then keep taking a $22k hit every now and then :confused: and filling the street up with bricked Tesla's ;)
     
  6. MP3Mike

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    That's all great until the battery in that car fails out of warranty and you have two undriveable cars. Of course as someone mentioned if you have the space, tools, time, etc. you can part out a $25k Model S and get way more than the cost back.

    Part of what you get for the $22k is the 4-year/50k mile warranty on the battery pack.
     
  7. TSLA Pilot

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    Life is short: trade it in and get a new one.

    Seriously, you'll love the upgrades and Tesla can do what it wants with the old one:)
     
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  8. ucmndd

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    Maybe, but not in conjunction with a $22k charge for a replacement battery. As I said, talk around it all you want, but that's a total cost to me as an owner of $37,000 for a battery pack. $435 per kwh. There is no defensible position to charge that to an existing customer in 2021.

    I'll accept your ballpark estimate that it costs maybe $5k all-in to refurbish a pack on average. physical swap at the SC, shipping both ways, plus teardown and refurb at some centralized facility.

    If you're going to charge me $15,000 for the privilege of keeping my old (valuable) part, you should not charge me full cost for the replacement (as I said upthread, I strongly doubt Tesla's actual manufacturing cost for a brand new 100kwh pack is north of $22k these days).

    You wanna charge me $10k plus a $15k core charge to replace my battery? $25k all-in is in the realm of reason. No complaints here.

    $22k plus $15k? Absurd.
     
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  9. krishna3812

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    Elon promised module replacement for model3 is (5-7)k. Why is he not doing similar module replacement for model S?
     
  10. MP3Mike

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    Did he really promise that? He estimated that is what it would cost a number of years in the future.
     
  11. Electric700

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    They should start, but I think the cost to replace one module should be less than $1,500.
     
  12. MP3Mike

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    You can't really replace just one module, as all of them need to be balanced to each other capacity wise. And there is probably almost $1,500 in labor just to drop the pack, open it, do much of anything inside, seal it up, and reinstall it...
     
  13. CapeOne

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    Elon's tweet from about two years ago:

    M3modules.jpg
     
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  14. TSLA Pilot

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    Or around $5k to "fix" it, IIRC:

     
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