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Setec CCS to Tesla Adapter

Discussion in 'Supercharging & Charging Infrastructure' started by Boeingpilot, Dec 29, 2020.

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    Can someone point to the tweet that is being referred to? Thx
     
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    It's fairly common for one of the two charger modules in the IES units to fail, leaving only about 12kW output available.

    I suppose you should be glad it was only half broken. ;)
     
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    With the newest firmware, what has been the highest kW charge rate people with a Model S or X seen when SOC is low (~20%)?
     
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    Has there ever been more than 50 kW? Sorry if I missed it.
     
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    Model S/X are not limited to 50kW like the 3/Y
     
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    There is supposedly a more aggressive firmware available that allows a higher charge rate.
     
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    Depends on car, SOC and most importantly now, battery temperature.
     
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    It seems to be limited to 125 amps, so I don't see how that matters all that much. I'd expect a peak of ~50kw until that limitation gets removed.
     
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    So, a more expensive alternative to the Chademo adapter.
     
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    It is limited to 200 amps on the S&X.
     
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    Oh, that's odd. I was under the impression that it was emulating CHAdeMO on the 3/Y. Is it doing something else on the S/X?
     
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    Yeah, that is the case in every video that I have seen of it working. Although there are more CCS plugs than CHAdeMO in the US now.

    And it sounds like the potential is there for more.
     
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    Details are here, how it actually works and why Model S/X can do higher (actually it can do more than 200A, but the adapter limits itself to protect itself), but Model 3/Y can't.
     
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    No, it's doing the exact same thing. It's the S/X that are doing something different from the 3/Y. Presumably because Tesla has retrofitted the S/X in Europe to use CCS adapters in that market, those models are programmed to request whatever the BMS says the battery can take and then the station side limits what is actually delivered. The 3/Y come with a CCS port natively though, so they havn't needed programming like that. They've only needed programming to let them use the CHAdeMO adapter, which has a limit of 125A so that's the max that those cars are programmed to request.
     
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    That is really helpful, thanks for the details!
     
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    Probably. But other than Volkswagen’s networks it’s still a 1 to 1 ratio in this neck of the woods. (BC).
     
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    Checking on PlugShare, seems Electrify America have one CHAdeMO installed at each location.
     

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