Hydrocarbon302
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I thought CCS has/was a standardized protocol to avoid communication issues between different chargers/vehicles?
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You would think so, but for some reason human beings like to implement standards in non-standard ways.I thought CCS has/was a standardized protocol to avoid communication issues between different chargers/vehicles?
The problem seems to be just slight variations on the implementation of the CCS protocol and the requirement to fail safe (not energized the plug) if everything isn't perfect. I've seen a few notes on plugshare saying something along the lines of "we are aware of fast charging issues with xyz vehicle and are working with the vehicle manufacture and charger manufacturer to rectify the issue", so this is hardly unexpected.
I'd say there are a bit more than half-dozen. Electrify America Talks Charging Network Problems, Has Solutions lists ABB, BTC, Signet, and Efacec as ones they use. I can tell you that all 4 of those vendors have numerous different models of chargers with CCS.Sorry, I disagree. The adapter will only fit Tesla cars, so that limits their use case. There are only a half-dozen manufacturers of CCS fast chargers that have the lion's share of the market in the US, so that limits their use case even more. They flat out didn't do their diligence before selling here, and now they want one of our members to run software on his laptop while at the charging stations and capture logs, etc. That should have been step #1 for them to do when developing their product for the US market, and they didn't do it...If they would have given away 5-10 adapters to drivers in the US for this purpose, they'd probably had plenty of takers to help them. But they sold it as a working solution for a fairly premium price, and that's where I take exception...
You're complaining that an A to B adapter only works in A to B scenarios?Sorry, I disagree. The adapter will only fit Tesla cars, so that limits their use case. There are only a half-dozen manufacturers of CCS fast chargers that have the lion's share of the market in the US, so that limits their use case even more.
Bleeding edge technology is shipped all the time with beta firmware and expected to be updated in the field to production release. Take full self driving for example...They flat out didn't do their diligence before selling here, and now they want one of our members to run software on his laptop while at the charging stations and capture logs, etc. That should have been step #1 for them to do when developing their product for the US market, and they didn't do it...If they would have given away 5-10 adapters to drivers in the US for this purpose, they'd probably had plenty of takers to help them. But they sold it as a working solution for a fairly premium price, and that's where I take exception...
Anyways, I'd be willing to bet that this adapter is working on >85% of networked chargers by the end of January, unless Tesla or EA deliberately tries to prevent them from working.
Anyways, I'd be willing to bet that this adapter is working on >85% of networked chargers by the end of January, unless Tesla or EA deliberately tries to prevent them from working.
This is a software problem and putting a thousand adapters into the hands of everyday users and asking them to submit logs when something doesn't work is an effective way of finding all the bugs. Microsoft does this all the time with Windows updates and nobody bats an eye unless they bluescreen a million computers.Unlikely, since at this point they said that they can't being an engineer here because of COVID-19. It didn't seem like they were going to do remote development.
Unlikely, since at this point they said that they can't bring an engineer here because of COVID-19. It didn't seem like they were going to do remote development.
Today, I contacted with SETEC engineer. It's because the adapter didn't work properly on DC Combo charger what I use.
I sent the log files 3~4 times at the engineer's request, and the problem was solved in 3hours. So it works very well, now.
(50 kWh DC Combo charger / Tesla receive up to 45 kWh)
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I agree that this would be helpful. Especially to keep track of which charging station make and model works or not. Adding adapter firmware level would be good so improvements or fixes could be tracked.Can we create a group spreadsheet to log data from people have have received their adapter and whether or not they were successful in charging?
some good data points would be
Adapter received date, serial number if any.
Tesla year, model, trim, software version
Charger make, model, location, ambient temp, payment method
Charge successful? If yes, actual rate vs charger rated rate. If not successful, what was the error code?
I sent the log files 3~4 times at the engineer's request, and the problem was solved in 3hours.
Certainly good news and thank you for your report. . But I gather you are in Korea. I’m looking forward to seeing better results from North American users.
Today, I contacted with SETEC engineer. It's because the adapter didn't work properly on DC Combo charger what I use.
I sent the log files 3~4 times at the engineer's request, and the problem was solved in 3hours. So it works very well, now.
(50 kWh DC Combo charger / Tesla receive up to 45 kWh)
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Yeah, I realize that now. I had assumed the car would display the total energy it was receiving, nit the net energy that gets to the pack. Now I know differently.
Ok, that's interesting. Are they going to send a firmware update to all their customers I wonder? Is it an installer program loadable onto Windows 10?They just sent me v124 to update.. Have not had a chance to test yet. That said, what did they send you?
Sound like that adapter is a genie in a bottle you gotta rub it the right way baby. LolOk, that's interesting. Are they going to send a firmware update to all their customers I wonder? Is it an installer program loadable onto Windows 10?