Setec CCS to Tesla Adapter

[Zer0t]

I’ve used with a Win 7 VM on my Mac

Yes my post immediately following I used a win10 vm on Mac with the proper USB drivers. So now I can give back the awful windows laptop.

 

[ccdisce]

So was the Signet rep flipping out about the adapter or only curios? I’ve seen Tesla owners post to Twitter using the SETEC adapter on an EA station and tagging EA on the post; they received a like and retweet from EA so I guess they don’t care.???

Just curious , he took pic using his cellphone and wanted to know where I bought it.

 

[BritneySpears]

So is there a latest/greatest working firmware to the SETEC that will tell the charger on a model 3 to take in more than 50 kw?

 

[ZeusF1]

So is there a latest/greatest working firmware to the SETEC that will tell the charger on a model 3 to take in more than 50 kw?

Nope

 

[theothertom]

So is there a latest/greatest working firmware to the SETEC that will tell the charger on a model 3 to take in more than 50 kw?

CrazyPostman on YouTube has tested many software versions and has been limited to 50kW. I haven't seen any info on increasing that for the model 3.

 

[Boeingpilot]

Contact Setec directly. They do, but FYI, there have been some vehicles damaged with it

 

[theothertom]

there have been some vehicles damaged with it

I assume you mean damaged when more than 50kW were supplied? I haven't heard of any cars that have been damaged when using the adapter at 50kW (or less).

 

[21miDay]

So is there a latest/greatest working firmware to the SETEC that will tell the charger on a model 3 to take in more than 50 kw?

Not working. There is (was?) experimental firmware that Reddy_KW pulled down. It resulted in damage to his car. See post #356.

 

[Reddy_KW]

V 150 is the latest version they have. I sent them some data capture logs last night on some chargers I use regularly. Hopefully it will work before my road trip I’m taking in two weeks. This device is literally a “Tesla Killer” if you use the experimental firmware.

 

[Zer0t]

V 150 is the latest version they have. I sent them some data capture logs last night on some chargers I use regularly. Hopefully it will work before my road trip I’m taking in two weeks. This device is literally a “Tesla Killer” if you use the experimental firmware.

Is that the latest safe revision?

 

[Reddy_KW]

Is that the latest safe revision?

Yes. I’m testing v155 right now for compatibility.

 

[NickPhan5454]

Fwiw, I've used the adapter 23 times since purchase and have had zero issues. It even saved me a headache on our road trip back from Utah last weekend, when I was able to skip a supercharger with a line and just go to the nearby EA station.

You do you and all that, but I don't have any concerns about using this adapter. Just avoid the experimental firmware that tries to mimic supercharging (instead of chademo), because it pretty obviously doesn't work.

Note: I track everything in TeslaMate, and looked up how many times I've used it. I'm not (quite) obsessive enough to have known it was used 23 times off the top of my head.

Is your EA location has a charge speed of 150 kW? Or is it 50 kW only?

 

[psiglin]

Has the adapter been reliable? Most videos I have seen it seems like it works on the 50kw ccs chargers but anything over that it fails?

 

[Boeingpilot]

Has the adapter been reliable? Most videos I have seen it seems like it works on the 50kw ccs chargers but anything over that it fails?

- Reliability is a relative term.... For the CCS stations that it works with, it works. I have not heard of anyone having a failure. However, as you can see in this thread, and on numerous YouTube videos, compatibility with different stations varies. Setec has been very proactive in releasing updated firmware

- An operational limitation for M3 and MY vehicles is that the software on those vehicles (not the Setec firmware) limits charging to 50kw. This is because the adapter emulates a CHAdEMO adapter. On MS and MX (at least pre-Raven vehicles), it will work to it's maximum rating 200A (about 77 kw). I have seen this as a good number with my '15 S.

 

[psiglin]

- Reliability is a relative term.... For the CCS stations that it works with, it works. I have not heard of anyone having a failure. However, as you can see in this thread, and on numerous YouTube videos, compatibility with different stations varies. Setec has been very proactive in releasing updated firmware

- An operational limitation for M3 and MY vehicles is that the software on those vehicles (not the Setec firmware) limits charging to 50kw. This is because the adapter emulates a CHAdEMO adapter. On MS and MX (at least pre-Raven vehicles), it will work to it's maximum rating 200A (about 77 kw). I have seen this as a good number with my '15 S.

So is it more of a problem with CCS being more open and each company that puts out a charger is doing something different on the initial handshake? I guess I will wait a little longer and also hope they drop the price some more. Maybe wishful thinking since the Chademo adapter from Tesla is around the same price.

 

[theothertom]

guess I will wait a little longer and also hope they drop the price some more. Maybe wishful thinking since the Chademo adapter from Tesla is around the same price.

The dilemma, for me, is that there are lots more CCS plugs than ChaDeMo. And the Tesla ChaDeMo adapter is a big clunky thing. The Setec adapter is still large but not as bad as the Tesla ChaDeMo adapter. Maybe the Tesla CCS adapter, if it is ever released, will be more compact?
CrazyPostman on YouTube has done the most testing that I've seen. The Setec adapter seems to work on Electrify America but not so much on Francis Energy stations in Oklahoma.

https://www.youtube.com/c/Crazypostman/videos

 

[Jason Bloomberg]

After multiple failures, the latest firmware update 1.51 has made the SETEC CCS-1 to Tesla adapter function at upto 50 kW DCFC with our 2012 Signature Edition Tesla P85 Model S at an Electrify America CCS charger. So far, this is the only one I've been able to get it will work with. EVgo and Charge Point are not yet working for us with this adapter.


It is not something I would want to rely on. It is fussy to get working and charges much slower than the 120 kW we can pull from a Tesla Supercharger, but as a faster alternative to Level 2 charging when a Supercharger is not nearby, like the CHAdeMO adapter, it is great to have when traveling and may get better with future firmware updates. We paid $460 which is about the same as our CHAdeMO adapter.

 

[boulder.dude]

Hmm, if the Setec adapter could reliably get 50 kW it would be a nice CHAdeMO replacement (and future-proof), but it sounds like reliability ain’t there yet?

 

[cwerdna]

After multiple failures, the latest firmware update 1.51 has made the SETEC CCS-1 to Tesla adapter function at upto 50 kW DCFC with our 2012 Signature Edition Tesla P85 Model S at an Electrify America CCS charger. So far, this is the only one I've been able to get it will work with. EVgo and Charge Point are not yet working for us with this adapter.

Keep in mind that Electrify America has 4 different vendors for their DC FCs: BTC Power, Signet, ABB and Efacec. I haven't watched your video other than a few seconds here and there but it looks like you used Signet chargers like the ones at PlugShare - Find Electric Vehicle Charging Locations Near You. (In comparison, BTC Power ones EA uses look like PlugShare - Find Electric Vehicle Charging Locations Near You.)

EVgo also has several vendors like ABB and BTC Power. PlugShare - Find Electric Vehicle Charging Locations Near You has ABB. PlugShare - Find Electric Vehicle Charging Locations Near You also has ABB not counting the Nissan/Sumitomo CHAdeMO charger. PlugShare - Find Electric Vehicle Charging Locations Near You is BTC Power. EVgo is finally installing High Power Chargers has Delta and Signet.

ChargePoint has numerous vendors. I've mentioned them at Setec CCS to Tesla Adapter along with the above.

 

[Boeingpilot]

So is it more of a problem with CCS being more open and each company that puts out a charger is doing something different on the initial handshake? I guess I will wait a little longer and also hope they drop the price some more. Maybe wishful thinking since the Chademo adapter from Tesla is around the same price.

I think if you look online, while the CHAdeMO is generally more reliable, it isn’t perfect either. Also, it has required firmware updates over its history, which can only be done at the service center