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Shoddy quality and poor QC and missing parts..

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by chinnam3, Jun 8, 2018.

  1. chinnam3

    chinnam3 Member

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    Clips are no longer required? How do they think liner is held? Also if that is the case, why only some cars, and only some clips are missing. Don't buy into that BS, please.
     
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  2. hoang51

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    I never bought into the reason why they're missing. That's why they're happy to put fasteners onto the wheel liners.
     
  3. chronopc

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    It the clips aren't needed then why do they bother drilling the holes for them?
     
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  4. hoang51

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    I suspect they were probably trying to speed up production and not worry about these small and negligible things, where the service center can take care of them.
     
  5. Knightshade

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    FWIW I'm missing the wheel well clips too (Sept 30 delivery, 64xxx VIN)

    The service center told me they're not needed and not being installed anymore- and said there's nothing to fix when I asked them to fix it.
     
  6. Shizzrock

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    they told me just my passenger front window was proud of the b pillar for aerodynamics.
     
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    I took mine in today for a couple issues. I was told none of the cars shipped with those anymore, and there was a brand new one parked next to me ready for delivery. It didn't have them either.
    I told them I want them regardless to keep dirt and salt from getting trapped in the liner, and they installed them for me.
     
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    Too much to read but in one of those posts you highlighted some missing clips. I assume you assumed since there was a hole that a clip should be there. According to Tesla a clip there is no longer part of manufacturing. (At least when I asked the same.)
     
  9. Stirfelt

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    This post cannot pass without a comment.

    "Small and negligible?" A $65-75k new vehicle with poor paint, misaligned body parts, missing fasteners, and a myriad of other assembly defects ..... are not "small and negligible."

    No viable automobile manufacture can survive having to rely on the SC to correct shoddy assembly.
    With thousands of new vehicles being delivered each month, SC's will be so swamped with corrective work, service will become equally shoddy (once the SC's were doing a remarkable job). Now, more owners are reporting slow and unresolved issues. Frustration will follow ..... already a poster is saying he cannot recommend a Tesla to family and friends. Not something Tesla wants to hear.

    Then there is the inconvenience of having to take your brand new, pricey vehicle to the SC to correct defects THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE LEFT THE FACTORY.

    And no one wants to listen to their wife question why a brand new, very expensive vehicle ..... needs physical defect, and visual imperfections corrected?
    Worst ..... it's a damn good question!

    Tesla engineers, technicians, computer specialist and designers have conceived a truly remarkable, trend setting automobile.
    But the assembly defects are undermining the remarkable design.

    Finally, "Speeding up production" is NOT an acceptable excuse.
     
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  10. Stirfelt

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    I posted the above comment 5 months ago. I search the forum almost every day looking for positive reports that QC has improved.
    Either the quality hasn't improved ... or owners do not bother to write about the positive.

    Come on owners ... give us some encouragement that quality has improved.
     
  11. Dana1

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    Complaints are more widely reported than perfection. Go to Tesla club events and look at cars in parking lots. Many more that are great than the number of complaints here. This doesn’t mean the delivery teams shouldn’t have fixed errors before calling in customer but it seems QC has improved.
     
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  12. Perry

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    #72 Perry, Mar 26, 2019
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    Don't think the quality has improved at all from what I have seen on newly purchased cars bought by my neighbors. I think eventually it will get better but it will take several years and some interior redesign at least for all the rattles.
     
  13. mattack4000

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    BS. They have no QC other than testing to make sure the car works. My car came straight from the factory with the white paper, it was never cleaned or vacuum. Heck, the floor mats was shedding so much that they drop little fuzz on the white seats everywhere. I thought they were pubic hair for a sec.

    Keep your expectations low.
     
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  14. Perry

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    I agree. Expect very low quality and you won't be disappointed. On exterior panel gaps, paint, and panel fitment, definitely below the quality level of absolutely all main stream manufacturers, even the cheapest and lowest budget cars you can imagine. It will be better than the Hugo or the Trabant though so that's a plus. In the interior expect the well known rattles from the B-pillar seat belts area on both sides, rattles from several head liner areas, and body flex noises when accelerating/decelerating aggressively. In general the car doesn't give you a sense of confidence that its interior won't fall apart in a few years.
     
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    wait so the wheel well clip mounting holes are drilled all the way through into the trunk? and now that these clips are not needed, there are open holes into the trunk??

    this doesn't seem normal to me. they should be taped or sealed at the least to prevent water intrusion...
     
  16. Stirfelt

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    I'm saddened by the above post. I had hoped ... even let myself believe, that QC was improving.

    Fortunately ... I am not in the market for a new car. Initially, my "want" was taking president over "need."
    Reports such as these have significantly suppressed the "want."

    I can wait this out ... and if Tesla cannot found a way to improve their QC, there are great alternatives on the horizon.
     
  17. bdrinks

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    I just took delivery of a SR+ and don't see any problems with it
     
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  18. StealthP3D

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    That's typical, the little issues get completely blown out of proportion by two things:

    1) The Internet echo chamber
    2) Those who want to create the impression of low quality to dissuade Tesla sales and the EV revolution that is happening right under their noses. Never under-estimate how many industries are directly threatened by the success of Tesla.
     
  19. mattack4000

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    Really? How do you like this for quality. Morons can’t even put plastic panel together . It will have to be warranty and replace, what a waste of time and money on all sides
     

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  20. Perry

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    I am not trying to dissuade Tesla sales but i was very disappointed with the build quality of my car and after 6 visits to the service center although they fixed 70% of the defects, 30% could not be fixed and they just gave up on it and 5% they added new damage during the process of fixing it. So I have to live with 35% unwanted defects. I just want to set the expectations for new buyers so they are not as disappointed as I am. Not to mention all the wasted hours and hard-ache with all the service visits. This is not acceptable for such an expensive car.

    Had I known how badly these cars are put together I would have waited two years more before buying since I did not need a car right away and the rush to get the fed rebate was a scam since they lowered the price to meet the loss of the rebate anyway. So there was no cost savings after-all to buy early like we were falsely led to believe.

    I see no reason not to wait unless you really need a car now.
     
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