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Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2013

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justthateasy

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Aug 8, 2013
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there is no elaboration but i assume it's the price rising lately


If that's the only reason then this might just be the blip/buying opportunity people have been waiting for. Well, at least until Goldman issues their "downgrade" to 104 from 84.

Still, a headline shouldn't be taken seriously without solid analysis but we both know how reactionary the markets are to these sort of things..... :rolleyes:
 

Fast Laner

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Jul 22, 2013
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oh, excuse me!

redharel posts this ultra important message 2 mins prior to pre-market start, approx 6000 shares change sides.
25min later the action is over.

i won' t read his posts any more.
 

redharel

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Jul 21, 2013
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oh, excuse me!

redharel posts this ultra important message 2 mins prior to pre-market start, approx 6000 shares change sides.
25min later the action is over.

i won' t read his posts any more.


you say that i have the power to shake 20+ Billion company? PMSL
you need someone to check your brain
 

hoang51

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Aug 22, 2013
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oh, excuse me!

redharel posts this ultra important message 2 mins prior to pre-market start, approx 6000 shares change sides.
25min later the action is over.

i won' t read his posts any more.

Your insinuating allegation has no substantial proof to link redharel to an agenda to lower the stock price of TSLA. The mere coincidence timing of the person's post does not indicate absolute guilt.

So a good question is: does anybody else have an IB account that can vindicate redharel's assertion?
 

Fast Laner

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Jul 22, 2013
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i do regret the words i have chosen in my prior post, i just wonder who gets us what news first no matter of time.
the check on my brain about malfunctions was negative.
 

Chickenlittle

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Sep 10, 2013
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Your insinuating allegation has no substantial proof to link redharel to an agenda to lower the stock price of TSLA. The mere coincidence timing of the person's post does not indicate absolute guilt.

So a good question is: does anybody else have an IB account that can vindicate redharel's assertion?
Schwab reporting same. Chage from buy to neutral. Makes sense their price target of 187 surpassed no new data from company. Expect a lot of volatility between now and report.
 

Mario Kadastik

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Sep 5, 2013
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Well I got a SA alert on this and it added this:


  • The investment firm sets a $187 price target on shares as it also cites "execution risk" as a factor.

Not that any of it is really news. But it might give us a buying opportunity ;)
 

Norse

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May 8, 2013
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Well I got a SA alert on this and it added this:


  • The investment firm sets a $187 price target on shares as it also cites "execution risk" as a factor.

Not that any of it is really news. But it might give us a buying opportunity ;)

+1! If people are selling over this, I wonder why they got the stock in the first place..
 

wishing_for_S

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Aug 28, 2013
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Your insinuating allegation has no substantial proof to link redharel to an agenda to lower the stock price of TSLA. The mere coincidence timing of the person's post does not indicate absolute guilt.

So a good question is: does anybody else have an IB account that can vindicate redharel's assertion?

I got a different alert that Baird is downgrading Tesla to neutral.
 

Acmykguy

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Jul 12, 2013
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Oct 2 (Reuters) - Tesla Motors Inc <TSLA.O>:
* Baird cuts to neutral from outperform
But yet leaves the target price the same. IMHO, pure market manipulation to get in lower now that 3q is over and the 3 day sec rule about buying or making adjustments to stock is over , Baird can now toss this out there to get market panic , drop share price and get in lower. Weasels !
 

redharel

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Jul 21, 2013
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i do regret the words i have chosen in my prior post, i just wonder who gets us what news first no matter of time.
the check on my brain about malfunctions was negative

non taken, case closed as far as i concerned
 

sleepyhead

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May 31, 2013
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But yet leaves the target price the same. IMHO, pure market manipulation to get in lower now that 3q is over and the 3 day sec rule about buying or making adjustments to stock is over , Baird can now toss this out there to get market panic , drop share price and get in lower. Weasels !

I don't know if you are serious, but I have heard many people on TMC say something similar in the past. This is not how equity research works. The analysts have their reputations on the line and that is all they really care about. If they get calls correct, then their reputation increases and the money will follow.

This is not how the financial industry works people. Wall St. banks are not all crooks and criminals like the liberal media will lead you to believe. Analysts are not out to their to manipulate the market so that their customers can buy a stock cheaper, because there is no way that they can get compensated for this unless they go in on a deal with the traders as well as upper management. And nobody in their right mind is going to agree to such illegal collusion for a few extra dollars during bonus season.

I worked as a stock analyst for one of the biggest banks so I know a little about the industry, and I can tell you that all analysts care about is getting the calls correct.
 

aznt1217

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Aug 27, 2012
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Downgrade by Baird was only a sentiment one. PT remained. Market watch is citing increased short interest for the reason. Time to load up soon.
 

sleepyhead

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May 31, 2013
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Does anybody have access to the Baird report? What kind of numbers do they have for Q3, FY2013, and FY2014, specifically EPS, revenue, margins and deliveries?

Thanks
 

v12 to 12v

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Jul 10, 2012
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Is it really worthwhile to develop a compliance car just for California? I would think that the costs of development would be so high that it is actually cheaper just to keep buying the credits.

I heard an interesting perspective from someone in the auto industry about larger makers suddenly stepping up to make EV offerings.

The industry is starting to think that having an EV in the showroom will make their brand look good in the eyes of the consumer. The consumer will come to the lot looking for the EV offering and the old dealer games would begin. Sales people will have incentives to guide the customer towards an ICE or Hybrid once talk of charging opportunities or range takes place. A revised form of the ol' "bait and switch".
 

redharel

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Jul 21, 2013
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I don't know if you are serious, but I have heard many people on TMC say something similar in the past. This is not how equity research works. The analysts have their reputations on the line and that is all they really care about. If they get calls correct, then their reputation increases and the money will follow.

This is not how the financial industry works people. Wall St. banks are not all crooks and criminals like the liberal media will lead you to believe. Analysts are not out to their to manipulate the market so that their customers can buy a stock cheaper, because there is no way that they can get compensated for this unless they go in on a deal with the traders as well as upper management. And nobody in their right mind is going to agree to such illegal collusion for a few extra dollars during bonus season.

I worked as a stock analyst for one of the biggest banks so I know a little about the industry, and I can tell you that all analysts care about is getting the calls correct.

with all respect to you sleepy i think you are naive. i'm quite sure there are analysts who's getting paid for their opinions going with players position and not from a pure analysis.
 

Citizen-T

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Aug 25, 2011
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with all respect to you sleepy i think you are naive. i'm quite sure there are analysts who's getting paid for their opinions going with players position and not from a pure analysis.

I'm with sleepy. There are certainly some crooks out there like there are in any industry, but the vast majority of these analysts are hard working family men/women just trying to do the best they can with the time and information they have. They know the laws and ethical boundaries and they respect them fully.

The drop to underperform makes perfect sense given the fact that TSLA has surpassed the price target that their research had set and there is no new data on which to change their PT. I'm sorry if you got caught buying calls up here---but com'on---several of us have been saying that things are too hot right now. The market was just waiting for a reason to sell TSLA.
 
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