The litigation has already started.
Law firm claims Tesla is falsely advertising what its Autopilot software can do
Law firm claims Tesla is falsely advertising what its Autopilot software can do
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To add to the arguments I posted above for offering self driving now:
5 - Learning - Tesla now has a first mover advantage in terms of fleet learning. By the time anybody else in the industry gets around to shipping a suite they say is capable of Level 4/5 in normal conditions and can fleet learn - Tesla will be on V3 of the Autopilot suite (perhaps containing Lidar) and will have two years or more of learning behind them - along with a fully proprietary vision system the fleet began testing way back in October 2017.
I think it would be insane to only charge $4,000 for FSD at a point in time where it actually works and does everything they claim it will. That is very clearly a $20k - $30k feature, at least for the first few years. It would take that much just to recoup research & development costs, ignoring the cost of the actual hardware itself. Only charging $3,000 for it now is like getting a 90% discount, but taking the risk that it might not ever really work.
Yeah, that was annoying.The firm is being shady. It's not 10k for those features when you order. It's 8. Playing loose with facts when you're accusing someone of playing loose with facts is ironic at best and an instant loser at worst.
I tend to agree with you. Show us what, and how much data is being transmitted from each HW2 car back to the mother ship, or it ain't happening.......There is no such thing as fleet learning.
its a complete facade and i have debunked it several times.
1.) Tesla doesn't really get your $3K until they deliver something that in good faith matches what it's supposed to do. At least that's how I understand the accounting of it.
Do you have some links? I'd like to read your posts.There is no such thing as fleet learning.
its a complete facade and i have debunked it several times.
But, AP1 performs well enough that I'm not sure I'll upgrade until Level 3 semi-autonomous driving arrives with AP2 (or later).
I think it would be insane to only charge $4,000 for FSD at a point in time where it actually works and does everything they claim it will. That is very clearly a $20k - $30k feature, at least for the first few years. It would take that much just to recoup research & development costs, ignoring the cost of the actual hardware itself. Only charging $3,000 for it now is like getting a 90% discount, but taking the risk that it might not ever really work.
@Doug_G - I am literally picking a car right now before clicking the "buy" button - and trying to decide on FSD. If Tesla achieves a lot the next 12 months and suddenly raises the price of FSD by $5,000 or more I will be kicking myself!
im not sure i agree with your numbers.
For the record, my post here is not exactly to gripe, and the tone of my writing might be more due to my overall pessimistic NY upbringing, however.. the thing im really thinking about with all of this is:Now you listen here buddy boy - when I want you to call me on my hypocrisy I'll let you know!