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Should the Gen 3 to be a smaller version of the Model S but otherwise identical?

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by ipdamages, Jun 10, 2013.

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Should the Gen 3 exterior simply be a smaller version of the Model S?

  1. Same as Model S, only 10% smaller

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  2. Model S size less 10%, but a little more aggressive/sporty

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  3. Model S size less 10%, but a little more mainstream

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  1. ipdamages

    ipdamages Roadster Sports 835 & 972

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    In light of Elon's comments that the Gen 3 is going to be similar to the Model S, only 10% smaller, do you think the Model S exterior is otherwise perfect as is for Gen 3 purposes, or would you prefer that it be more sporty/aggressive, or less sporty/aggressive?
     
  2. IceWendigo

    IceWendigo Member

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    Imo Model S is just perfect blend of style, imo Gen 3 doesn't need to be sportier nor less sportier.
     
  3. kilpatds

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    There's what it should be, and what I want it to be. I want something more sporty... but they'll maximize sales & profit elsewhere on the spectrum.
     
  4. fjavifp

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    Think he said 20%... with strong family resemblance...
     
  5. Mr X

    Mr X Future Owner

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    i love the model s's design but it has to be slightly different, cant be exactly the same
     
  6. Kevin Harney

    Kevin Harney Active Member

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    I vote for Sportier. S is nice but IMHO bland looking. Franz said he wants to take more liberties with Gen3 and I hope Elon lets him
     
  7. MrIanB

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    I would like Gen 3 to be comparable to BMW 3 series or Lexus IS size. Not sure it would still allow current battery ranges to fit in them.

    Ian B
     
  8. Kevin Harney

    Kevin Harney Active Member

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    We already know it will be competition for the 3 Series, C Class and A4/5 from Elon
     
  9. IceWendigo

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    If they could pull some sort of cab forward design and slightly push the wheels out closer to the four corners, keep the Model S battery pack and have it look good it would be great imo.
     
  10. ChrisP

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    I agree. Elon mentionned in the past Gen III would be 25% smaller than the Model S but lately he did mention it would be 20% smaller (could not find the source thought). Never heard of 'only' 10% smaller. Can someone confirm he mentionned 10% smaller? That would make it still quite a roomy sedan (not that I would mind).
     
  11. JRP3

    JRP3 Hyperactive Member

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    It has to be more than just 10% smaller to reduce weight and get an aerodynamic cross section that's going to be needed to get as much range as possible from a smaller pack. Make it small, slippery, and sporty please, not just a smaller S.
     
  12. timf

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    As a frame of reference, the Volt is approximately 18% smaller than the Model S based on footprint. I have a hard time picturing the Gen 3 being any smaller than this as it's already pretty tight on passenger space. The A4 by comparison is only 12% smaller than the Model S, while the 3 series is 14% smaller. I think ultimately the Gen 3 will be in the neighborhood of 10-15% smaller than the Model S or you end up positioned too far down market to be competitive with luxury manufacturers.
     
  13. JRP3

    JRP3 Hyperactive Member

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    The Volt suffers from the intrusion of the pack, G3 won't have that handicap.
     
  14. Rifleman

    Rifleman Now owns 2 Model S's!!!

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    If it was just as wide as the volt, with 3 seats in the rear, and 2-3 inches more rear seat leg room, I would be really happy with that form factor.
     
  15. sleepyhead

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    It also needs to have a lot more headroom in the rear. This scaled down Model S coupe style is not going to work in a smaller car. Head room is very important in the back seat, and Tesla shouldn't ignore this issue.
     
  16. scaesare

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    And ICE. :)
     
  17. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

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    If they can fit 3 in the rear seat, I think they've made it too large/wide.
     
  18. Rifleman

    Rifleman Now owns 2 Model S's!!!

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    They dont necessarily need to be able to fit three adults in the rear seat, but the ability to put a rear facing child seat in the middle between the two font seats is critical. This is a MAJOR issue with the Volt, and has prevented a lot of sales. The guys over on GM-VOLT.com complain about it all the time.
     
  19. Dragonfly

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    Price point should be below $30,000 and it should go at least 260 miles. Maybe a little more average joe and less luxury. Ford Focus/Mazda 3-ish? With Tesla style, of course.
     
  20. Kevin Harney

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    Not going to happen !
     

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