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Signature Angst
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This is the way it is with virtually all products.
If you bought a 2005 vehicle, I bet a 2013 model has more, costs less, performs better, is safer, or many/all of the above.
If anyone is looking to get more and pay less, time is their friend. If you want it now, want to support the company at a more critical time, want to be an early adopter, etc. Signatures were the way to do it.
Daily Kos: Tesla Model S Has Arrived: You Have a Duty to Buy One (If you can afford)
I'm not the best with words, perhaps the above article puts it better.
digitaltim
Sig737 VIN628
To me, Sig was all about supporting the transformation to electrify the automotive industry...this from someone with 21+ years in the energy industry.
That said, a few more perks for my fully loaded Sig would have been nice - I plan to do the perf+ options assuming they are available when I do my 12.5k service in 2 weeks.
That said, a few more perks for my fully loaded Sig would have been nice - I plan to do the perf+ options assuming they are available when I do my 12.5k service in 2 weeks.
anticitizen13.7
Not posting at TMC after 9/17/2018
I think support for TMC, and electric automobiles in general, was probably the primary motivator for most Signature Series buyers. Being an early adopter has its risks.
I'm kinda conflicted on this. I don't think the Signature was good value for the money... Tesla occasionally implied there'd be more goodies but didn't actually promise and never came through with anything substantial... yet I couldn't bring myself to drop back to Production. I really like the Sig Red, but then I also love the look of white with grey wheels. I'm very happy with the car, and it was pretty awesome being the first to get a Canadian-spec S... but I wouldn't do Signature again in the future.
I doubt that very much. It doesn't seem reasonable to spend a lot of effort designing a suspension system for only a few thousand cars and then never offering it again. The main value was getting it early, but as it turned out there wasn't much of a delivery time difference between the Sigs and the first production cars. My guess is that the original plan was that Sigs would be six months before the general production (e.g. The Sigs all being shipped during June/July rather than just the first six cars and the production at the November date) which would have been real value.
I suspect that there will be very few takers for any future Signature cars from Tesla unless they can really show some significant extra value.
This. Which Tesla should be concerned about. As it stands, I still have a sig x reservation, but if the time comes to configure and there is still a sig tax while still limiting our options and sig S's didn't see any additional value (beyond the free year of net and cargo net), then I'll happily drop down at that point to a high XXXX number. I'll pay less, get more options and have a later, better-tested car.
And there it is again. Tesla offered Signature as a premier item, yet nobody who got one (that I know of) would recommend it to anyone that asks. That's not a desirable result for any company.
ChadS
Last tank of gas: March 2009
Put me in the middle. I would do the same Sig buy again, but am not likely to buy a future Sig.
I would do the same one again because there was no Sig tax for me. I qualified for a 10k discount for having a Roadster and a Model S Sig reservation at the right time (limited time offer). My Sig cost me just about exactly what a regular production would have cost with the options I would have purchased, but because it was a Sig there were more options than i would have purchased, I got it early, and I got the color that my wife liked best. We weren't in a hurry for the car (we already had two EVs we really liked) but this worked out really well for us.
I think (though I am guessing) this scheme was a way to extract extra dollars from willing new customers in a hurry AND reward loyal buyers at the same time. If it was intentional (guessing again - I don't think it was their plan when they offered the early discount, but I suspect it is why they ended up pricing the Sig like they did), I think it worked out great; but it won't work again unless they do another discount or get more people in a hurry. Both of which are possible, though neither is guaranteed.
I would do the same one again because there was no Sig tax for me. I qualified for a 10k discount for having a Roadster and a Model S Sig reservation at the right time (limited time offer). My Sig cost me just about exactly what a regular production would have cost with the options I would have purchased, but because it was a Sig there were more options than i would have purchased, I got it early, and I got the color that my wife liked best. We weren't in a hurry for the car (we already had two EVs we really liked) but this worked out really well for us.
I think (though I am guessing) this scheme was a way to extract extra dollars from willing new customers in a hurry AND reward loyal buyers at the same time. If it was intentional (guessing again - I don't think it was their plan when they offered the early discount, but I suspect it is why they ended up pricing the Sig like they did), I think it worked out great; but it won't work again unless they do another discount or get more people in a hurry. Both of which are possible, though neither is guaranteed.
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I'm confused by this. Your use of the term "free" here suggests (to me) that you only qulaified for the 10k discount if you purchased a Sig (SSL) rather than a general production (R). Or am I misunderstanding?
ChadS
Last tank of gas: March 2009
Correct. The discount only applied if you bought a Sig. Updating my post to be more clear.
If I could have taken 10k off a regular production, yeah I would have done that.
If I could have taken 10k off a regular production, yeah I would have done that.
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Interesting. So, yah, for SSL sigs this was a good deal. This gives me some new insight into why SSL folks have been relatively quiet regarding the angst.
Unless you were a Canadian SSL, in which case they terminated the program before we were afforded the opportunity to reserve a Signature.
smorgasbord
Active Member
First, to be clear this wasn't extended to all Roadster owners - only those that bought before a certain date (maybe Dec 31, 2010?). June, 2011 was too late, for instance.
Also, the way a fellow owner who did qualify for the discount explained it to me, he didn't need to buy a Model S Sig, just a Model S. Of course, he could have been wrong, or I could have gotten it wrong...
I wonder how Model S Sig buyers will feel if they *do* add some significant value to future models' Signatures?
Gunshy before they do it, so likely unrewarded when they do. But pleased that they learned, and consequently more optimistic for Tesla's long-term prospects.
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