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Silverstone Track day in a Model 3 Performance

preseh

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How much did the track day cost and did you get insurance in case you went a bit too wild?

The track day was around £450 - other tracks are cheaper but Silverstone GP circuit is particularly expensive especially in the summer. I didn't have track insurance, I did consider it but the quote was something like £600 for the day. Silverstone is very wide though so you've got a lot of room if you make a mistake.
 
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m3p_uk

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The track day was around £450 - other tracks are cheaper but Silverstone GP circuit is particularly expensive especially in the summer. I didn't have track insurance, I did consider it but the quote was something like £600 for the day. Silverstone is very wide though so you've got a lot of room if you make a mistake.

Thanks, not sure I have the goolas to attempt without insurance so works out quite expensive for the limited number of laps the car will be able to do.
If anyone has tried at another track or has suggestions for cheaper options would be welcomed to hear please!
 

Electric Dream

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Thanks, not sure I have the goolas to attempt without insurance so works out quite expensive for the limited number of laps the car will be able to do.
If anyone has tried at another track or has suggestions for cheaper options would be welcomed to hear please!
Where in the UK are you?
Airfield trackdays are what you need to look at. There should be some at Abingdon (Dalton Barracks) this year organised by Motorsport Events if that's not too far for you?
 

m3p_uk

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Where in the UK are you?
Airfield trackdays are what you need to look at. There should be some at Abingdon (Dalton Barracks) this year organised by Motorsport Events if that's not too far for you?

Thanks, located in South London.
What would be different about airfield track days? Few things to crash into/more run off or something else?

Have seen some half day tution sessions which are about £350 but will probably need to charge the car a few times?
 

Electric Dream

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Thanks, located in South London.
What would be different about airfield track days? Few things to crash into/more run off or something else?

Have seen some half day tution sessions which are about £350 but will probably need to charge the car a few times?
Yes, more runoff, cones rather than Armco and the ones MSE organise are very well behaved so the risk of damaging your car in any way is minimal. A day at Abingdon with some tuition is going to cost around £150-£160, so good value.

£350 for half a day sounds quite expensive, who's that with?
 
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Tevo Solutions

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I agree with Electric Dream about Abingdon. It's a good place to start if you haven't got much track experience and are concerned about damaging your car.

I'm pretty sure I've done more track miles in a Model 3 than anyone else in the UK, mainly at Abingdon, Brands Hatch and Thruxton and when the lockdown is lifted and trackdays start up again I'll be at all of those tracks to help other Model 3 owners get the most from their cars. I've spent the last year doing a lot of work (and laps) testing brake, suspension, wheel and tyre upgrades for the Model 3 so I'm not just recommending parts and products you can already find on the web, I'm developing new and better products here in the UK for owners in the UK.

If you want any advice about preparing your Model 3 for the track I'd be happy to help. I can also advise on charging strategies for each of those tracks how to get the most out of the time you're there. Once trackdays are in full swing again I'll be organising some events specifically for Model 3 owners. We'll have driver coaching using the car's data logging capabilities and workshops going into much more detail about tyres, suspension set ups, track mode and more.

We just need more of you to get out on track and show those ICE drivers there's a better way!
Cheers
John
 

m3p_uk

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I agree with Electric Dream about Abingdon. It's a good place to start if you haven't got much track experience and are concerned about damaging your car.

I'm pretty sure I've done more track miles in a Model 3 than anyone else in the UK, mainly at Abingdon, Brands Hatch and Thruxton and when the lockdown is lifted and trackdays start up again I'll be at all of those tracks to help other Model 3 owners get the most from their cars. I've spent the last year doing a lot of work (and laps) testing brake, suspension, wheel and tyre upgrades for the Model 3 so I'm not just recommending parts and products you can already find on the web, I'm developing new and better products here in the UK for owners in the UK.

If you want any advice about preparing your Model 3 for the track I'd be happy to help. I can also advise on charging strategies for each of those tracks how to get the most out of the time you're there. Once trackdays are in full swing again I'll be organising some events specifically for Model 3 owners. We'll have driver coaching using the car's data logging capabilities and workshops going into much more detail about tyres, suspension set ups, track mode and more.

We just need more of you to get out on track and show those ICE drivers there's a better way!
Cheers
John


Have a m3p- and don't want to change anything other than high temp brake fluid. Know brakes will be very limited but this is more for a bit of fun to see what the car can do.
Does reducing regen help keep the battery cooler?
 

Tevo Solutions

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Have a m3p- and don't want to change anything other than high temp brake fluid. Know brakes will be very limited but this is more for a bit of fun to see what the car can do.
Does reducing regen help keep the battery cooler?

If you want to change the brake fluid that means you expect to be driving hard enough to cook the pads. So then you'll need new pads.
You can't reduce the regen without uprating the brakes in the first place or you'll cook your fluid and pads even faster!

If you're only expecting to take your car on track once, or for one of the 1/2 day sessions you linked to above, I would even bother changing the fluid. You won't be pushing the car hard enough. I know other M3P owners who have been on track at Brands Hatch and Abingdon with completely standard cars and have had no issues with the brakes, because they were driving at 7/10 instead of 9/10. It's not a given you HAVE to change anything to take a Model 3 on track, as long as you pick the right track and don't try and be the fastest car on it. It sounds like you're approaching it in the best way and that's to improve your technique before trying to improve your lap times.
 

m3p_uk

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If you want to change the brake fluid that means you expect to be driving hard enough to cook the pads. So then you'll need new pads.
You can't reduce the regen without uprating the brakes in the first place or you'll cook your fluid and pads even faster!

If you're only expecting to take your car on track once, or for one of the 1/2 day sessions you linked to above, I would even bother changing the fluid. You won't be pushing the car hard enough. I know other M3P owners who have been on track at Brands Hatch and Abingdon with completely standard cars and have had no issues with the brakes, because they were driving at 7/10 instead of 9/10. It's not a given you HAVE to change anything to take a Model 3 on track, as long as you pick the right track and don't try and be the fastest car on it. It sounds like you're approaching it in the best way and that's to improve your technique before trying to improve your lap times.

Problem with the m3p- is that it has the smaller discs and pads of the sr+ and LR but the performance of the performance! Have heard a lot of people cook the stock fluid so would just change that as it's been almost 2 years in the car anyway as it cheap/easy to get done.
 

403 Forbidden

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If you want to change the brake fluid that means you expect to be driving hard enough to cook the pads. So then you'll need new pads.
You can't reduce the regen without uprating the brakes in the first place or you'll cook your fluid and pads even faster!

If you're only expecting to take your car on track once, or for one of the 1/2 day sessions you linked to above, I would even bother changing the fluid. You won't be pushing the car hard enough. I know other M3P owners who have been on track at Brands Hatch and Abingdon with completely standard cars and have had no issues with the brakes, because they were driving at 7/10 instead of 9/10. It's not a given you HAVE to change anything to take a Model 3 on track, as long as you pick the right track and don't try and be the fastest car on it. It sounds like you're approaching it in the best way and that's to improve your technique before trying to improve your lap times.
Whats your thoughts around a Model 3 SR+ on track. What would be the recommendations? Thanks
 

Tevo Solutions

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Dec 21, 2020
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Problem with the m3p- is that it has the smaller discs and pads of the sr+ and LR but the performance of the performance! Have heard a lot of people cook the stock fluid so would just change that as it's been almost 2 years in the car anyway as it cheap/easy to get done.

Yes the smaller brakes won't help, but just changing the fluid won't either. Once you've got the temp. high enough to boil the fluid, the pads are toast too. Uprated fluid and pads go hand in hand.
 

Tevo Solutions

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Dec 21, 2020
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Whats your thoughts around a Model 3 SR+ on track. What would be the recommendations? Thanks
There is view that the SR+ might be better in some ways that the P as it's lighter and might suffer less from the drive unit overheating during extended use, but the lack of track mode is going to be a problem as the traction control will be intrusive and the brakes will need upgrading for most tracks.

As with any Model 3, it does depend on your expectations. if you are happy doing a few laps on track slightly faster than road pace then it will be fine. Push it and the weaknesses will become apparent.
 

Peteski

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As with any Model 3, it does depend on your expectations. if you are happy doing a few laps on track slightly faster than road pace then it will be fine. Push it and the weaknesses will become apparent.

Spot on. If you repeatedly push it hard around a track then the brakes and tyres will soon overheat as there is no recovery time like there is on a normal public road. That’s the main difference between road and track driving. On the road you might push it around half a dozen corners and then have several minutes of cruising along straights or stuck behind traffic. On a track it’s a relentless unbroken cycle of braking, cornering and acceleration.
 
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