I have no interest in sticking it to Tesla or going down the road of proving anyone right or wrong. I purchased the upgrade with good faith that I was improving the AP performance of my car. I started this thread with the hope that I would be armed with some more knowledge to provide the mobile tech's so they can get to the bottom of the issue and fix it. But it sounds like there is no fix - which is massively disappointing.
I think this is a case where we can agree to disagree. This is no different than adding new features to an old PC or Mac that is already underpowered. Or to give you a transportation equiavalent, for us pilots it was the WAAS upgrade to the Garmin GNS 400/500 series. The unit was already underpowered. The upgrade to WAAS required replacing a number of components and it still didn't have the functionality of the GNS 480 or the follow-on 600/700 units. You disagree and I can respect that, but I that anyone who had an MCU1 in 2020 and didn't see/understand that the unit was already bogging down/overloaded was ignoring the obvious. That said, good luck to you. Meanwhile I am thrilled with my MCU1->MCU2 upgraded car and expect to enjoy it for years to come!
And therein lies the rub. Anecdotal evidence and claims are kind of like all the wild statements made by the Trump campaign legal team. When they finally go to court and have to present evidence, the answers are "we have no proof of fraud" and "we have no evidence this occurred, just anecdotal statements" and the cases get tossed out of court. I suspect the only way to win this would be to get one of the people who can access and see what is going on under the ood (like @verygreen) to provide detailed, documented information that could be used to prove that (a) the MCU1 was functioning before the upgrade and (b) the functionality was degraded AFTER the upgrade BECAUSE of the upgrade....and then you still need to overcome Tesla's likely counterclaim that "we have not yet released the final FSD software. It is still in early beta. As such, the plaintiff has no standing to sue." Is that case winnable? I don't know, but I do know it will be hard, take a lot of time and won't be cheap....
Good luck (I honestly mean that). It will likely be hard but might be possible. Your challenge will likely be getting them to even do it at all. To be honest, for all the pain and time that will take, I would suggest you look at biting the bullet and getting the MCU2 upgrade. It is a whole different car at that point. That said, I wish you well and agree that the MCU1/AP3 cars are on lifesupport and I don't see a path to them getting any better without upgrading to MCU2 (that is just my opinion). I know a lot of people are doing it in the hope that MCU1 will be found incapable of supporting FSD and that Tesla will bite the bullet and give them a free MCU2 (or MCU3) upgrade at some point. The problem is you have to live with what you have for likely 3-5 years and that may still never happen. To me it was worth it to pay for the upgrade (but then I was comparing it to staying where I was or buying a new car...your calculus may be different). Good luck!
Same. My MCU 1 certainly was not struggling. It worked perfectly fine and was not even the slightest bit sluggish.
Again, that is your opinion, but a lot of data would suggest your opinion isn't true. There is clear documentation all over the internet (and from Tesla itself) that showed that MCU1 ran a LOT slower than MCU2, rendered things slower, loaded websites much more slowly (if at all), processed voice commands much more slowly (and often failed to), performed navigation and routing calculations much more slowly, and could not display things MCU2 could necessitating a different software branch because the CPU and GPU were bogging down.
Again, by your definition. Had you run any kind of speed test or compared it to MCU2 on any of the things Iisted in my post above, it definitely was bogging down. You just found the speed it ran at acceptable. It is also well documented that MCU1 ran much slower on builds the last two years than 3-4 years ago (when the web browser actually worked). The real bogdown started on the software version that provided a full-screen map with everything else appearing above it and this is well-documented. Again, good luck to you!
You're missing the point. I am not comparing performance to MCU2. I am making the simple statement that my MCU 1 was very functional and useable, and not sluggish at all. After the HW3 upgrade it is basically unusable. Nothing of opinion there, that is just a fact. You keep comparing to MCU 2 but that's not relevant for this discussion.
