Slower supercharging on Model 3

[SageBrush]

The mi/hr number is an average so it changes drastically as you charge and the rate changes

What is being averaged ? The entire charging session ?

 

[MP3Mike]

What is being averaged ? The entire charging session ?

Yes.

 

[cukahara]

What are the real supercharging rates? Thanks for you answer.

 

[apacheguy]

Seconded. Supercharging data has been scarce from the new owners.

 

[FredTMC]

Seconded. Supercharging data has been scarce from the new owners.

My Model 3 charged at 116kw from a fairly low charge up thru 50% full.
It rolls off slowly after about 2/3s full

I don’t have the full curve plottedbut it’s not bad at all

 

[FredTMC]

Car is great. Same opinions as the Electrek view by James (red 3)

 

[AWDtsla]

My Model 3 charged at 116kw from a fairly low charge up thru 50% full.
It rolls off slowly after about 2/3s full

I don’t have the full curve plottedbut it’s not bad at all

Have you figured out what the Wh value of a Rated Mile on your 3 is?

 

[gizmoboy]

0-80% in 30 minutes. So 190 miles for a Model X 75D for example.

170 in 30 doesn't sound that far off...

 

[apacheguy]

@FredTMC is there a visible battery pack sticker like on Model S/X?

 

[Zoomit]

My Model 3 charged at 116kw from a fairly low charge up thru 50% full.
It rolls off slowly after about 2/3s full

I don’t have the full curve plottedbut it’s not bad at all

”not bad at all”?? 116kW into Tesla’s most efficient car also makes it Tesla’s fastest recharging car on mile per hour charging basis. #thingsTeslawon’tadvertise

 

[SageBrush]

”not bad at all”?? 116kW into Tesla’s most efficient car also makes it Tesla’s fastest recharging car on mile per hour charging basis. #thingsTeslawon’tadvertise

IIRC the LR battery is 78 kWh nominal, making the max charge rate ~ 1.5C. That is on par IIRC with recent Model S cars. From stories it sounds like the taper is no worse and perhaps improved, so all in all great news for the Model 3 battery.

I've been saying since forever that an average 1C charge rate going from 20% -> 80% SoC in the Model 3 will be as much we can somewhat realistically hope for and it does seem that Tesla has hit that bar. I'm really pleased since it will mean 4.5+ miles per minute charging at Supercharging stations in decent weather and flat terrain. My usual 250 one way trip will require about a 10 minute charging stop mid-way in a non LR Model 3, which is exactly the time we now stop anyway.

 

[KarenRei]

Just a reminder... if you have charging data, be sure to include it here!

Model 3 Charging / Driving Data

You can either leave it in a comment, or request access to the sheet so that you can make changes at will

 

[FredTMC]

@FredTMC is there a visible battery pack sticker like on Model S/X?

Haven’t looked yet. I’ll try

 

[FredTMC]

Have you figured out what the Wh value of a Rated Mile on your 3 is?

No.

 

[MP3Mike]

Just a reminder... if you have charging data, be sure to include it here!

Model 3 Charging / Driving Data

You can either leave it in a comment, or request access to the sheet so that you can make changes at will

@KarenRei Some really good Supercharging curve information from Let the journey begin for you:

8-13%: ramped up from 70kW to 110kW gradually
14%: 110kW
30%-45%: 117kW
46%: 109kW
50%: 100kW
55%: 90kW
60%: 78kW
65%: 70kW
70%: 65kW

It looks like the long range Model 3 is going to be a Supercharging beast... ​

 

[KarenRei]

Awesome, 117kW is the highest reported yet! And some rather low SoC data too. Superb!

With aero wheel caps on, at "normal US highway speeds", the driving data seems to be around 240Wh/mi in good conditions. With respect to that and with good supercharging speeds, Model 3 can charge at nearly 500mph.

Can't wait until superchargers come to Iceland where our top speed limit is only 56 mph

 

[apacheguy]

Any idea why the ramp is slower at low SOC? For instance, it doesn’t hit 115 kw until beyond 10%. My S85 hits it right off the bat.

The 100 ramps much faster to its max charge rate:

 

[KarenRei]

There's lots of things it could be, and not all of them intrinstic to the vehicle. We need more data.

 

[outdoors]

My two cents would also suggest that those who post data maybe play musical charging stalls if they don't get an initial charge rate that they like. I did this multiple times to get a good charge rate on my trip.

 

[Darren Donovan]

KarenRei: off-topic, but are you the same one posting on tropicalfruitforum? I'm a long time member there too. I'm very impressed at what you can do in Iceland growing tropical stuff.