I would disagree. I drove S75 and S85, both standard versions felt much faster from stop(0-30). 85D has even more oomph. I got those (non D) as loaners.
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Sluggish Off the Line Acceleration Model 3?
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I would disagree. I drove S75 and S85, both standard versions felt much faster from stop(0-30). 85D has even more oomph. I got those (non D) as loaners.
SSonnentag
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Nope, it is not. I tested and compared in all modes. Ofcourse Chill Mode is even worse.
After 30, it goes like rocket...
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Daniel in SD
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I do wonder if the difference is the amount of “jerk” (rate of change if acceleration is low). I measured my Lexus GX 470 acceleration with the VBOX and it showed a peak g force of .76g which is more than the .6g or so that the Model 3 pulls. Subjectively the Lexus seems very fast off the line. However the acceleration quickly drops off and it goes 0-30 in 3.0s vs the reported 2.2s for the Model 3.
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gavine
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The only reason anyone ever gets a P100 vs a 100D is because of the speed. The price differential is enormous between a P and a non P.
The price differential is enormous between the 3 and the S.
Expectations of the 3 somehow being twice as good at half the price of the S is not fair nor realistic.
Poor Elon having to antisell the 3 for a year and way undersell the LR range proves the value is too good.
I don't know if LR is detuned or not via software but even if it were - I'd still take it over a Bolt.
The price differential is enormous between the 3 and the S.
Expectations of the 3 somehow being twice as good at half the price of the S is not fair nor realistic.
Poor Elon having to antisell the 3 for a year and way undersell the LR range proves the value is too good.
I don't know if LR is detuned or not via software but even if it were - I'd still take it over a Bolt.
I am not sure if this is with Roll out or not, also with old Software version. As mentioned in few other threads, it seems Tesla dialed it down with later versions.
Don't count on it, the issue is the PM motor which is very maxed out. The RWD 3 can't be compared to S models with induction motors.
3 is a lot lighter. It’s being restrained. Count on it.
SSonnentag
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Weight is 12-18% less than a comparable S. Power is 20-32% less and torque is similar. S still reigns in the power-to-weight ratio.
LR model 3 weighs ~ 3800lb vs base Model S 75D weighs ~4600lb, that is More than 20% weight difference even with base model S.
Ofcourse 75D has lot more horse power. If you look at standard Model S85, weight is not much different from 75D, but torque is inline with Model 3 (though more HP).
Still, I do believe it has been tamed intentionally by Tesla and I do not see any reason a run of the mill BMW 330i with ICE can beat it to 0-30 despite having instant electric motor torque, more HP.
We can only speculate reasons for now, like drive train longevity or to differentiate between PAWD and Model 3 etc.
But I do hope they will release some more later when sales drop a little bit after Federal credits vanish.
SSonnentag
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mtndrew1
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My 3 LR RWD does feel slightly soft off the line but then goes like a bat out of hell. I suspect they’re trying to reduce driveline shock a bit to cut down on potential drive unit failures.
SSonnentag
埃隆•馬斯克
I think it could be a combination of not wanting to destroy tires, gears, passengers' necks, and possibly even the motors. It seems that without some sort of soft start, the motor could draw enough power from a dead stop to damage itself over time. Hence the warning on the Ludicrous-equipped cars about accelerated motor wear.
Been a lot of talk here about M3 acceleration but not any hard numbers, just chit-chat.
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