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Smart Preconditioning

Todd Burch

Voltage makes me tingle.
Nov 3, 2009
7,801
28,498
Smithfield, VA
It would be better phrased as "at home or work, even if charging."

But I believe the intent was to avoid the questions from customers asking "does it work if I'm charging?"
 

scaesare

Well-Known Member
Mar 14, 2013
8,200
12,995
NoVA
It would be better phrased as "at home or work, even if charging."

But I believe the intent was to avoid the questions from customers asking "does it work if I'm charging?"

I suspect so. Even better might be "at home or work, regardless of whether or not it's either plugged in or charging."
 

ArtInCT

Always Learning
Sep 2, 2014
1,713
433
Southern Connecticut
Guys, thanks for this info on the preconditioning. If the car learns your pattern, and you turn preconditioning off for some reason.... will preconditioning have to "relearn" or will it carry on where it was just before you turned it off? In other words, once it has your "pattern" can you "pause" it?
 

scaesare

Well-Known Member
Mar 14, 2013
8,200
12,995
NoVA
Guys, thanks for this info on the preconditioning. If the car learns your pattern, and you turn preconditioning off for some reason.... will preconditioning have to "relearn" or will it carry on where it was just before you turned it off? In other words, once it has your "pattern" can you "pause" it?

I've wondered that too... my schedule was not normal this last week while it learned... so I'll have to see if it readjusts or I'll have to dis-/re-enable.
 

Btrflyl8e

Supporting Member
Mar 24, 2013
2,582
1,264
Seminole, Florida, United States
I am excited for this feature, since I have had to remember nearly every afternoon to turn on the ac before leaving my office for lunch or end of day. Even after 21 months I still forget sometimes, and every time I'm so annoyed with myself.

I just got the update a few days ago, so looking forward to it working soon! I just wish I could tell it to ignore it until a certain time. I leave the house at 6am nearly every day, no need for heat or ac most days.
 

jerry33

(S85-3/2/13 traded in) X LR: F2611##-3/27/20
Mar 8, 2012
19,525
21,731
Texas
When it's colder, I preheat longer. Anyone know if it adjusts for temperature? My assumption is that it doesn't, it just figures out your normal leaving time and then starts preconditioning about 15 minutes before.
 

slipdrive

Member
Aug 30, 2013
196
2
Colorado
Got 6.1 installed last night. It will be interesting to see if it ever deems my schedule "regular" enough. It would be helpful in my opinion to have a prompt through the app "do you wish to condition?". I tend to like the manual choices....
 

dsm363

Roadster + Sig Model S
May 17, 2009
18,278
151
Nevada
Got 6.1 installed last night. It will be interesting to see if it ever deems my schedule "regular" enough. It would be helpful in my opinion to have a prompt through the app "do you wish to condition?". I tend to like the manual choices....

Might be best to turn it off then (it's on option) if you find it not working for you. You can do both. You can choose it turn it on if it hasn't done it for you already in the morning.
 

UberEV1

Member
Mar 9, 2014
359
121
San Jose, CA
Data point: Received update on Thursday and turned on pre-conditioning that night. Then yesterday (Saturday, around 2pm) car's climate system came on while car was in garage and wouldn't turn-off (no rhyme or reason relative to my work schedule). Tried locking/unlocking cycles, plugging in and disconnecting plug and even turning off pre-conditioning, but climate remained on (I purposely did not turn off climate on the main screen in order to try to understand what was going on). Ultimately what seemed to work was to keep pre-conditioning turned off, put car in Drive momentarily and then back in park, exiting car and then locking it. Seems turning off pre-conditioning alone didn't do anything, but cycling car to full on and off again was enough.

Looks like the algorithms need a bit more refinement, but expect that will happen as the feature matures (i.e. more data comes in).
 

tliving

Member
Mar 8, 2014
751
102
New England, USA
Mine seemed to learn something and started doing the preconditioning thing (only way I've found to notice is when you get in the car and its already warm when you didnt trigger by app). I was surprised it learned anything since i'm all over the place on times. I really wish they'd let you control it a little more directly or at least tell you what they think they learned.
 

TexasEV

Well-Known Member
Jun 5, 2013
7,641
8,469
Austin, TX
Mine seemed to learn something and started doing the preconditioning thing (only way I've found to notice is when you get in the car and its already warm when you didnt trigger by app). I was surprised it learned anything since i'm all over the place on times. I really wish they'd let you control it a little more directly or at least tell you what they think they learned.
You can control it directly-- don't turn on smart precondition and use the app to set the temp when you want to.
 

DieAbetic

Member
Jan 16, 2014
168
15
Los Angeles
Update: although mine does work fine for weekdays, for some reason the car has the fans blowing right now (3pm in the afternoon on a Sat). I'm not sure what kind of schedule it is trying to follow for the weekend...
 

scaesare

Well-Known Member
Mar 14, 2013
8,200
12,995
NoVA
I leave at 2:30pm every Sunday. The car has yet to "observe" this since getting 6.1 five days ago.

Today I had to leave 20 minutes earlier than usual, and the car had the HVAC on...
 

ohaq

Model S #P9,326
Apr 20, 2012
241
6
Michigan
In the release notes is says

With this release, Smart Preconditioning will automatically get the cabin climate ready for you, based on the last set temperature and your driving schedule. Model S will observe your driving schedule and when it’s confident in identifying a pattern, it will start Smart Preconditioning when you are charging, at home, or at work.


I have noticed that my car starts preconditioning even when it is not plugged in. I don't know if that is a good thing or bad but its doing the opposite of whats in the release notes.
 

scaesare

Well-Known Member
Mar 14, 2013
8,200
12,995
NoVA
In the release notes is says

With this release, Smart Preconditioning will automatically get the cabin climate ready for you, based on the last set temperature and your driving schedule. Model S will observe your driving schedule and when it’s confident in identifying a pattern, it will start Smart Preconditioning when you are charging, at home, or at work.


I have noticed that my car starts preconditioning even when it is not plugged in. I don't know if that is a good thing or bad but its doing the opposite of whats in the release notes.

You haven't read this thread, have you? :tongue:
 

castor

Member
Jan 4, 2013
148
2
Redmond, WA
Update: although mine does work fine for weekdays, for some reason the car has the fans blowing right now (3pm in the afternoon on a Sat). I'm not sure what kind of schedule it is trying to follow for the weekend...

That EXACTLY happened to mine. It turned on Saturday at 3PM, and was on battery. :(
 

Mario Kadastik

Active Member
Sep 5, 2013
2,189
1,396
Rae, Harjumaa, Estonia
Well I got the fw update on Saturday, turned on preconditioning and then out of the blue when I was letting the dog out at half past midnight yesterday discovered the car was heating. e-mail Tesla and they're pulling the logs to see if it's the preconditioning going wanco in the middle of the night (seriously, where did it think I was going to go?)
 

efusco

Moderator - Model S & X forums
Mar 29, 2009
5,421
666
Nixa, Missouri, United States
Well I got the fw update on Saturday, turned on preconditioning and then out of the blue when I was letting the dog out at half past midnight yesterday discovered the car was heating. e-mail Tesla and they're pulling the logs to see if it's the preconditioning going wanco in the middle of the night (seriously, where did it think I was going to go?)
Has your wife been sneaking out to see her boyfriend at midnight? ;-)
 

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